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olakjen
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 24
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| Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:29 pm Post subject: sony g90 red tube |
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hello just bouht me a sony g90 , but the red tube i gloving a litle bit when it shoud be off, it looks lige the g2 is set to high,
a have tried to run for 20min whit abg on but it dossent help, when a look in the tube when the abg line is gone its flashing, does somone know whats wrong?
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the big E
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 1928 Location: speedwell Tn.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Could be a neck board but the g2 may be too high
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CIR Engineering
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It could be a neck board, socket board, or the PE board. However, it's most likely a short inside the tube or some contamination in the tube.
The first thing to try is to tap the neck of the tube with something non-conductive like the back of a screw driver. If there is contamination this make break it free and you'll be all right.
The next thing to try if you want is to just leave it alone. If the problem is contamination it may burn its self out after some time.
That being said, on the P19LQF or P19LUG tube, the problem is most likely a short inside the tube. Does the problem always occur or does it sometimes go away? When the tube is cold (first turned on) is the problem there or does it take some time to start? If it takes some time or is intermittent than it's probably a thermal short. As the tube heats up the metal traces inside the tube deflect a little and sometimes they wind up touching each other.
If you want, you can pull your red tube and ship it to me to inspect on my CR7000 tube tester. The CR7000 can tell us if there is a problem with the tube. It can also repair some kinds of shorts or stuck contamination. If there is a short on the heater, this is not repairable.
I also have a nearly new P19LUG red tube already in G90 hardware that I could sell you.
craigr
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olakjen
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 24
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | It could be a neck board, socket board, or the PE board. However, it's most likely a short inside the tube or some contamination in the tube.
The first thing to try is to tap the neck of the tube with something non-conductive like the back of a screw driver. If there is contamination this make break it free and you'll be all right.
The next thing to try if you want is to just leave it alone. If the problem is contamination it may burn its self out after some time.
That being said, on the P19LQF or P19LUG tube, the problem is most likely a short inside the tube. Does the problem always occur or does it sometimes go away? When the tube is cold (first turned on) is the problem there or does it take some time to start? If it takes some time or is intermittent than it's probably a thermal short. As the tube heats up the metal traces inside the tube deflect a little and sometimes they wind up touching each other.
If you want, you can pull your red tube and ship it to me to inspect on my CR7000 tube tester. The CR7000 can tell us if there is a problem with the tube. It can also repair some kinds of shorts or stuck contamination. If there is a short on the heater, this is not repairable.
I also have a nearly new P19LUG red tube already in G90 hardware that I could sell you.
craigr |
it is getting worse when it getting hotter , it did not help tap it
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Does it do it right when you first fire up the G90?
craigr
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olakjen
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 24
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | Does it do it right when you first fire up the G90?
craigr |
no dont think so
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CIR Engineering
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That is a thermal short.
I can test for what is shorted on the CR7000, but if it is the heater than there is nothing that can be done to the tube to save it.
craigr
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barclay66
Joined: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1304 Location: Germany
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | ...but if it is the heater than there is nothing that can be done to the tube to save it. |
Hi,
In this case You could supply the heater voltage for this tube from an external power supply which should be completely isolated from anything inside the PJ. But this isn't a nice solution and maybe not worth the effort regarding prices for red tubes. As these are the least ones to show any wear, You even could get a used one for a reasonable price...
Regards,
barclay66
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| barclay66 wrote: |
Hi,
In this case You could supply the heater voltage for this tube from an external power supply which should be completely isolated from anything inside the PJ. But this isn't a nice solution and maybe not worth the effort regarding prices for red tubes. As these are the least ones to show any wear, You even could get a used one for a reasonable price...
Regards,
barclay66 |
It would work, but most folks don't want to bother.
craigr
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Light Illusion ColourSpace XPT Color Calibration Software
Light Illusion LightSpace XPT Pro Version 10.x Color Calibration Software
OMARDRIS JVC Software Patch to use K10-A and Jeti with JVC OEM AutoCal Software!
Sencore CR7000 CRT Tube Analyzer / Rejuvenater
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Phone: 865-405-6892
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