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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | Yes, I think the timings are important, but I donīt bother. I am finished with this stupid discussion now! |
| Andreas21 wrote: | Sine you are takling about bandwith limitations all the time, what is the bandwith of a real 4K display at 60Hz and 8 bit.
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You did start the topic, and sudently now you dont care anymore. How can that be.?
You tell me that the bandwidth is 530Mhz, but also that timings is important.. that dont add up..
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: |
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In defence of Stridsvognen, and this may be obvious to the two clowns asking about his mathmatical ability now, but im quite amazed these two "experts" couldnt figure out how to answer his question on total pixels... I knew what he meant straight away, and im only an amatuer...
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | Yes, I think the timings are important, but I donīt bother. I am finished with this stupid discussion now! |
| Andreas21 wrote: | Sine you are takling about bandwith limitations all the time, what is the bandwith of a real 4K display at 60Hz and 8 bit.
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You did start the topic, and sudently now you dont care anymore. How can that be.?
You tell me that the bandwidth is 530Mhz, but also that timings is important.. that dont add up.. |
I donīt care because it is not important to me and you are a person that will never stop. I tell you the bandwith is 530Mhz as dis Ecrabb, and I say the timings are important and I dont know the numbers is that enough for you. I have tried to fint them, but I canīt find them om the internet so I donīt bother anymore, Is that ok??
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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No, its not ok. I want you to find them!!
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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | Yes, I think the timings are important, but I donīt bother. I am finished with this stupid discussion now! |
| Andreas21 wrote: | Sine you are takling about bandwith limitations all the time, what is the bandwith of a real 4K display at 60Hz and 8 bit.
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You did start the topic, and sudently now you dont care anymore. How can that be.?
You tell me that the bandwidth is 530Mhz, but also that timings is important.. that dont add up.. |
I donīt care because it is not important to me and you are a person that will never stop. I tell you the bandwith is 530Mhz as dis Ecrabb, and I say the timings are important and I dont know the numbers is that enough for you. I have tried to fint them, but I canīt find them om the internet so I donīt bother anymore, Is that ok?? |
But your 530Mhz is without timings.. so that dont add up.. its like to say.. my display works with a 530Mhz limit, but it wont display any image.
You need more bandwidth to have space for your total pixel count.
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | In defence of Stridsvognen, and this may be obvious to the two clowns asking about his mathmatical ability now, but im quite amazed these two "experts" couldnt figure out how to answer his question on total pixels... I knew what he meant straight away, and im only an amatuer... |
I also knew what he was talking about as I have tried many different settings in my Crystallio II some years ago, but stridvognen took the tone of a teacher and spoke to me like I was a baby and I thought he could find out on his own. And I donīt know the timings for 4K and I can and could not find the numbers. Maby you can help?? And you calling me a clown I donīt care, I know what I know and your opinoin is worth nothing to me.
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | Yes, I think the timings are important, but I donīt bother. I am finished with this stupid discussion now! |
| Andreas21 wrote: | Sine you are takling about bandwith limitations all the time, what is the bandwith of a real 4K display at 60Hz and 8 bit.
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You did start the topic, and sudently now you dont care anymore. How can that be.?
You tell me that the bandwidth is 530Mhz, but also that timings is important.. that dont add up.. |
I donīt care because it is not important to me and you are a person that will never stop. I tell you the bandwith is 530Mhz as dis Ecrabb, and I say the timings are important and I dont know the numbers is that enough for you. I have tried to fint them, but I canīt find them om the internet so I donīt bother anymore, Is that ok?? |
But your 530Mhz is without timings.. so that dont add up.. its like to say.. my display works with a 530Mhz limit, but it wont display any image.
You need more bandwidth to have space for your total pixel count. |
Like I said you never stop!
I know you need more but I donīt care about it, please stop!
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!!
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!
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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it..
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!  |
And im saying back!! 5 times over with whate rabbit, no returns!!
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!  |
And im saying back!! 5 times over with whate rabbit, no returns!!  |
Says the man with the 100" 4:3 screen! LOL!
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK??
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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK??  |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!  |
And im saying back!! 5 times over with whate rabbit, no returns!!  |
Says the man with the 100" 4:3 screen! LOL! |
Shows how poor your eye sight and comprehension are doesnt it, its 125" and 5:4, with adjustable blanking too.
Considering more than half the content i display on my CRT is either 5:4 or 4:3, it seems quite fitting that i would use a screen that suits that aspect, wouldnt you think? Or would it be asking too much that youd expect me to want to use a full tube face to project my image?
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
Like I saied before I really do not care about this, even when I have 4K, not of any importanse for me .
If you find out something god for you. I did not ask for it.
I have no interest in this what so ever. And do not know the figures, and do not waist time on finding that out.
Only waist time here more fun.
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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
Like I saied before I really do not care about this, even when I have 4K, not of any importanse for me .
If you find out something god for you. I did not ask for it.
I have no interest in this what so ever. And do not know the figures, and do not waist time on finding that out.
Only waist time here more fun.
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Why did you involve yourself in a subject you dont know anything about, and have no idea how to calculate, when the subject was all about calculating the 4K bandwidth.?
If you think that making fun, and getting personal will remove my focus from the subject your friend Andreas started, your wrong.
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
Like I saied before I really do not care about this, even when I have 4K, not of any importanse for me .
If you find out something god for you. I did not ask for it.
I have no interest in this what so ever. And do not know the figures, and do not waist time on finding that out.
Only waist time here more fun.
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Why did you involve yourself in a subject you dont know anything about, and have no idea how to calculate, when the subject was all about calculating the 4K bandwidth.?
If you think that making fun, and getting personal will remove my focus from the subject your friend Andreas started, your wrong.
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And what are you getting out of this?
Again dragging away form topic like you use to on this forum. I am not shocked hehe
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!  |
And im saying back!! 5 times over with whate rabbit, no returns!!  |
Says the man with the 100" 4:3 screen! LOL! |
Shows how poor your eye sight and comprehension are doesnt it, its 125" and 5:4, with adjustable blanking too.
Considering more than half the content i display on my CRT is either 5:4 or 4:3, it seems quite fitting that i would use a screen that suits that aspect, wouldnt you think? Or would it be asking too much that youd expect me to want to use a full tube face to project my image? |
Iīm sorry about that, but I stopped watching 4:3 content a very long time ago. And I have 20/20 vision and it clearly says in your signature you have a 100" 4:3 screen and I also saw you have a 125" 5:4 screen. But enough of this!
I am a member of many forum sites and I have never visited a more hostile forum than this and I am surpriced how much bull**** is allowed.
And strisvognen I have told you many times: The only reason I asked about the bandwith of 4K 60Hz was to make you understand that the VW1000 has no bandwith limitations to show 1080p resolution fully. And if you want to find out the timings I wonīt stop you, but I wonīt spend any more time on this. Are you OK with that?
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stridsvognen Guest
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: |
And strisvognen I have told you many times: The only reason I asked about the bandwith of 4K 60Hz was to make you understand that the VW1000 has no bandwith limitations to show 1080p resolution fully. And if you want to find out the timings I wonīt stop you, but I wonīt spend any more time on this. Are you OK with that?  |
Ok lets thake the bandwidth inside the SONY then.
Ill love to hear more about how they made it happen.. Lets start with the panels, how fast are they.?
Bandwidth of each pixel.?
What framerate do SONY use to feed the panels with.?
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