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HogPilot
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | That'd be a catch 33 Hog  |
Ha, you got me on that one 
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Andreas21
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Just talked to RayJr last night about the 4k sony. He said he and the reviewer could not tell resolution differences till they got 3 feet from the screen compared to his rs20. And when they lowered the light output to match the RS20's they could barely tell the difference. Also he said there were some other issues, but then said there will never be a perfect display.So for $22k or for $3-4k get a cheaper Digital. I agree, so like what you like and be done with it.
He prefers the JVC's
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If he did not see any difference between the RS20 and a VW1000 I would not trust this person and I never trust reviewers.
I have tested the VW1000 against many projectors includig the CRT mentioned in this tread and the VW1000 is the best I have seen so far, I have tested it against a couple of the latest JVC, Sony VW95 and Sim2 M.150 and Lumis 3DS and the VW1000 is surperior in 2D by far over any of these. I have also owned a RS25 and tested it against the Sony VW85 and found the VW85 to be a better machine and sold my RS25 and bought the VW85. I have also tested the VW95 (it is a little better than the VW85 in 2D) against the VW1000 and the VW1000 blew the 95 away in every way, it was a no contest. The VW95 was not even close to the VW1000 in any aspect of the picture, so to say a RS20 is as good I find very strange and close to stupid. Last years JVC X75 in Europe (RS56 in the US) was close to the VW1000 in sharpness with E-Shift turned on, but the rest of the picture the VW1000 was better (the X75 has a better blackfloor when the iris is turned off on the VW1000).
When I tested against the Lumis 3DS I was shure the VW1000 was going to get a beating and was prepared to start saving as the Lumis 3DS is far over my budget, but to my great surprice the VW1000 was superior in almost every aspect in 2D and to me a much better machine than the Lumis. The Lumis was better in 3D.
I also read that RayJR prefered the M.150 over the VW1000 and that is to me a great mystery, I have tested the M.150 against the VW1000 and the only (two) things the M.150 is better at is instant on/off and lamplife. Anything with the picture the VW1000 was surperior, the projectors is not in the same league.
I test alot of projectors (about 50) and I always test them side by side in my own HT to get the best results comparing two or three projectors. I only test for fun and to see what is out there and I am always on the look out for the best my budget can buy, right now it is the VW1000 and I am really looking forward to find something that can beat it what name the label says I donīt care as I only want what is best inside my budget.
I know diddern and we do alot of tests together and we have the same goal when we are testing, we want to find out what is best. We donīt test for a magazine or internet site and donīt have to take care of our sponsors and follow magazine/site politics.
I am not saying the JVCīs or CRTīs are bad projectors, I just say the VW1000 is better. And if you donīt belive me try testing it in a good HT side by side with any other machine and you will belive me.
Here is a link to my HT where I test. The pictures is not updated, the first 5ft of the floor and the front and center speakers is treated with Fidelio Velvet and the first 5ft of the ceeling ins treated with Protostar flocking to minimise reflections. The carpet is also dark gray not light as shown in the pictures, it is a real batcave.
http://www.minhembio.com/21Andreas
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Diddern
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Just talked to RayJr last night about the 4k sony. He said he and the reviewer could not tell resolution differences till they got 3 feet from the screen compared to his rs20. And when they lowered the light output to match the RS20's they could barely tell the difference. Also he said there were some other issues, but then said there will never be a perfect display.So for $22k or for $3-4k get a cheaper Digital. I agree, so like what you like and be done with it.
He prefers the JVC's
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Hehe, we talk about a RS20 ok,,,,, ill be skeptic!!! Long time ago I had that one. I have tested the Europe version x70 and JVC X75 (RS56) together with the VW1000 and the VW95 and if there were small differences I guaranty I didn't want to pay 22K for nothing. For me huge differences in total picture. I can say that the rs56 are sharp as hell with the e-shift on and a god projector.
And if you don't want to see the benefit of a 4K display and the up scaling from blueray 1080P to 4K.
My opinion when I tested side by side, and then switching images multiple times.
There were sharpness differences in detail and in layers visible for your eye. Then better sharpness total, in my cinema at first row. And I have only one row hehe . But also seen this with longer distances with side by side. With same result.
Better for me that's why I got the VW1000 why: Punch, debt, motion, total shutdown down to black, motion sharpness, clear images, less noise in picture, Much better bright images , Some better dark images with iris and much more dynamic in total picture. The simultan contrast far form anything I've seen so far. This is my opinion.
But the New JVC models coming is more lightly in a more normal price level for most people. And the VW1000 was way over mine. hehe
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http://hometheaterreview.com/sony-vpl-vw1000es-4k-sxrd-front-projector-reviewed/
Most was a really good review, but some things reviews leave out so they can continue to get ad sales from those companies they review.
So they sugar coat the review in otherwords.
An excerpt:
Covering the Sony lens and uncovering the JVC resulted in a performance that was decidedly less awe-inspiring. Black levels were better than when played on the Sony, but colors lost a bit of their luster and, because the light values weren't as pristine, the image appeared to lose its edge. While Ray thought the JVC's performance felt more "movie-like," I didn't like it and immediately requested the JVC's lens be re-covered so that I could bathe in the VW1000ES' glory. But what was it that I was responding to? Was it the VW1000ES' upscaling, or was it the VW1000ES' light output?
A quick check-up on the JVC's light output revealed that it was projecting a mere eleven foot-lamberts at the screen. To ensure a level playing field, we dimmed the Sony's light output by closing the VW1000ES' iris until we matched the two projectors' light output at roughly 11 foot-lamberts. Keep in mind that the THX standard calls for 14 foot-lamberts (SMPTE standard is 11-16 foot-lamberts), which the JVC wasn't able to achieve in this particular setup, but the Sony was. Normally, you wouldn't dull down a projector capable of properly lighting a screen to reference specifications, but since we wanted to test resolution and upscaling rather than light output, this was the best way for us to compare the two. Believe it or not, a lot of what we perceive as increased resolution or a clearer visual experience has more to do with our perception of light and color than it does the number of pixels we're actually being shown.
Beginning with the VW1000ES, the dimmer image appeared less "alive." Colors were still nicely saturated and natural in their appearance, but didn't pop off the screen with plasma-like gusto the way they had before. Black levels improved, but some of the inner detail was now lost in the dimmer image. Motion remained the same, as did edge fidelity. Switching to the JVC produced an eye-opening experience, as there was no difference to the image when sitting ten feet away. I couldn't believe it. Keep in mind that this test only evaluated resolution, for both projectors were displaying the same Rec.709 color space using Blu-ray's eight-bit color standard, not DCi's expanded color space and greater bit depth. From ten and even eight feet away from a 110-inch screen, the difference between the JVC's native 1080p image and the VW1000ES' upscaled 4K product were so negligible that neither of us felt comfortable proclaiming a winner.
Returning the VW1000ES' brightness to 16 foot-lamberts resulted in an image that appeared to be of a higher quality, even though we knew it wasn't - it was simply brighter. It was only when I stood three feet from the screen that I was able to observe the difference between the two projectors' 1080p performance, for at three feet, I could easily see the JVC's pixels, whereas with the Sony, I could not. However, at three feet away, I also couldn't make out what was happening on the sides of the screen without turning my head, which isn't how many of us like to watch movies. Now, if you have a screen in excess of 140 inches, the VW1000ES would be a more suitable choice regardless of the source material, for it simply has the light output and pixel density to accommodate such a screen, but then again, I can also think of a few DLP-based projectors that can accommodate a screen this size as well and cost much less, such as Digital Projection's M-Vision Cine 260.
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Diddern
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| Nashou66 wrote: | http://hometheaterreview.com/sony-vpl-vw1000es-4k-sxrd-front-projector-reviewed/
Most was a really good review, but some things reviews leave out so they can continue to get ad sales from those companies they review.
So they sugar coat the review in otherwords.
An excerpt:
Covering the Sony lens and uncovering the JVC resulted in a performance that was decidedly less awe-inspiring. Black levels were better than when played on the Sony, but colors lost a bit of their luster and, because the light values weren't as pristine, the image appeared to lose its edge. While Ray thought the JVC's performance felt more "movie-like," I didn't like it and immediately requested the JVC's lens be re-covered so that I could bathe in the VW1000ES' glory. But what was it that I was responding to? Was it the VW1000ES' upscaling, or was it the VW1000ES' light output?
A quick check-up on the JVC's light output revealed that it was projecting a mere eleven foot-lamberts at the screen. To ensure a level playing field, we dimmed the Sony's light output by closing the VW1000ES' iris until we matched the two projectors' light output at roughly 11 foot-lamberts. Keep in mind that the THX standard calls for 14 foot-lamberts (SMPTE standard is 11-16 foot-lamberts), which the JVC wasn't able to achieve in this particular setup, but the Sony was. Normally, you wouldn't dull down a projector capable of properly lighting a screen to reference specifications, but since we wanted to test resolution and upscaling rather than light output, this was the best way for us to compare the two. Believe it or not, a lot of what we perceive as increased resolution or a clearer visual experience has more to do with our perception of light and color than it does the number of pixels we're actually being shown.
Beginning with the VW1000ES, the dimmer image appeared less "alive." Colors were still nicely saturated and natural in their appearance, but didn't pop off the screen with plasma-like gusto the way they had before. Black levels improved, but some of the inner detail was now lost in the dimmer image. Motion remained the same, as did edge fidelity. Switching to the JVC produced an eye-opening experience, as there was no difference to the image when sitting ten feet away. I couldn't believe it. Keep in mind that this test only evaluated resolution, for both projectors were displaying the same Rec.709 color space using Blu-ray's eight-bit color standard, not DCi's expanded color space and greater bit depth. From ten and even eight feet away from a 110-inch screen, the difference between the JVC's native 1080p image and the VW1000ES' upscaled 4K product were so negligible that neither of us felt comfortable proclaiming a winner.
Returning the VW1000ES' brightness to 16 foot-lamberts resulted in an image that appeared to be of a higher quality, even though we knew it wasn't - it was simply brighter. It was only when I stood three feet from the screen that I was able to observe the difference between the two projectors' 1080p performance, for at three feet, I could easily see the JVC's pixels, whereas with the Sony, I could not. However, at three feet away, I also couldn't make out what was happening on the sides of the screen without turning my head, which isn't how many of us like to watch movies. Now, if you have a screen in excess of 140 inches, the VW1000ES would be a more suitable choice regardless of the source material, for it simply has the light output and pixel density to accommodate such a screen, but then again, I can also think of a few DLP-based projectors that can accommodate a screen this size as well and cost much less, such as Digital Projection's M-Vision Cine 260. |
Do not believe everything you read hehe, test yourselves you then find what you like the best. Remember I do not get paid for revues or need to say good things, just because of a big advertising deal or sponsor stuff . I pick the best image possible that I can find, and little over the top for me with the vw1000. Still broke hehe
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| kal wrote: | | overclkr wrote: | Just to add to this thread, YES it's troll time, and YES you can get proper balance and gamma with the Radiance and still be able to stick that hand out in front of your face and not find it with CRT. 
Oh and you JVC boys can kiss my big fat white rear. The stack SMOKES you JVC boys. Maybe one day they will grow some brass and put a 300W lamp in that PJ and retain the on/off as well as produce the LIGHT. |
Something like this would be the exception I talked about where you can indeed get perfect blacks on CRT without crushing, and not see your hand in front of your face.
I would certainly hope a triple G90 stack with Radiance VP doing parametric gamma and other adjustments would be better as that's an insane amount of setup, cost, heat, and noise.
Can always count on Cliffy to stir the pot...
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Did you say Cliff and pot 
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| Nashou66 wrote: | http://hometheaterreview.com/sony-vpl-vw1000es-4k-sxrd-front-projector-reviewed/
Most was a really good review, but some things reviews leave out so they can continue to get ad sales from those companies they review.
So they sugar coat the review in otherwords.
An excerpt:
Covering the Sony lens and uncovering the JVC resulted in a performance that was decidedly less awe-inspiring. Black levels were better than when played on the Sony, but colors lost a bit of their luster and, because the light values weren't as pristine, the image appeared to lose its edge. While Ray thought the JVC's performance felt more "movie-like," I didn't like it and immediately requested the JVC's lens be re-covered so that I could bathe in the VW1000ES' glory. But what was it that I was responding to? Was it the VW1000ES' upscaling, or was it the VW1000ES' light output?
A quick check-up on the JVC's light output revealed that it was projecting a mere eleven foot-lamberts at the screen. To ensure a level playing field, we dimmed the Sony's light output by closing the VW1000ES' iris until we matched the two projectors' light output at roughly 11 foot-lamberts. Keep in mind that the THX standard calls for 14 foot-lamberts (SMPTE standard is 11-16 foot-lamberts), which the JVC wasn't able to achieve in this particular setup, but the Sony was. Normally, you wouldn't dull down a projector capable of properly lighting a screen to reference specifications, but since we wanted to test resolution and upscaling rather than light output, this was the best way for us to compare the two. Believe it or not, a lot of what we perceive as increased resolution or a clearer visual experience has more to do with our perception of light and color than it does the number of pixels we're actually being shown.
Beginning with the VW1000ES, the dimmer image appeared less "alive." Colors were still nicely saturated and natural in their appearance, but didn't pop off the screen with plasma-like gusto the way they had before. Black levels improved, but some of the inner detail was now lost in the dimmer image. Motion remained the same, as did edge fidelity. Switching to the JVC produced an eye-opening experience, as there was no difference to the image when sitting ten feet away. I couldn't believe it. Keep in mind that this test only evaluated resolution, for both projectors were displaying the same Rec.709 color space using Blu-ray's eight-bit color standard, not DCi's expanded color space and greater bit depth. From ten and even eight feet away from a 110-inch screen, the difference between the JVC's native 1080p image and the VW1000ES' upscaled 4K product were so negligible that neither of us felt comfortable proclaiming a winner.
Returning the VW1000ES' brightness to 16 foot-lamberts resulted in an image that appeared to be of a higher quality, even though we knew it wasn't - it was simply brighter. It was only when I stood three feet from the screen that I was able to observe the difference between the two projectors' 1080p performance, for at three feet, I could easily see the JVC's pixels, whereas with the Sony, I could not. However, at three feet away, I also couldn't make out what was happening on the sides of the screen without turning my head, which isn't how many of us like to watch movies. Now, if you have a screen in excess of 140 inches, the VW1000ES would be a more suitable choice regardless of the source material, for it simply has the light output and pixel density to accommodate such a screen, but then again, I can also think of a few DLP-based projectors that can accommodate a screen this size as well and cost much less, such as Digital Projection's M-Vision Cine 260. |
I have read the review and I donīt belive what he says and find strange that they donīt see any difference compared to the old RS20. I have done side by side tests and find very different results. If you take a 1080p projector like the RS20 the resolution difference even from 20ft and 100" screen will be visible, I have tested it in my own HT. And the RS20 is not a very good machine anymore so to say it is as good as the 25k VW1000 is to me bull$%&#. 
I belive we have a JVC fanboy among the reviewers.
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HogPilot
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Keep in mind, hometheaterreview.com is the same "review" site that claimed (and stood by it when challenged later) that the Lexicon BD player's colors were more saturated and blacks were better than those of the BDP-83 - even after hometheaterhifi.com revealed that the Lexicon was literally an entire Oppo BDP-83 dropped into a Lexicon casing. Their "reviews" are nothing more than fluff pieces to make manufacturers happy so they dump more money into ads. I have no respect for that site or its managing editor.
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| HogPilot wrote: | | Keep in mind, hometheaterreview.com is the same "review" site that claimed (and stood by it when challenged later) that the Lexicon BD player's colors were more saturated and blacks were better than those of the BDP-83 - even after hometheaterhifi.com revealed that the Lexicon was literally an entire Oppo BDP-83 dropped into a Lexicon casing. Their "reviews" are nothing more than fluff pieces to make manufacturers happy so they dump more money into ads. I have no respect for that site or its managing editor. |
Jeep like i say, ,do not believe everything you read or hear. And specialy when some klames something and have other interests. Or maby not a clue what they are saying. But some people belive. Hehe
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Andreas21
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| HogPilot wrote: | | Keep in mind, hometheaterreview.com is the same "review" site that claimed (and stood by it when challenged later) that the Lexicon BD player's colors were more saturated and blacks were better than those of the BDP-83 - even after hometheaterhifi.com revealed that the Lexicon was literally an entire Oppo BDP-83 dropped into a Lexicon casing. Their "reviews" are nothing more than fluff pieces to make manufacturers happy so they dump more money into ads. I have no respect for that site or its managing editor. |
This is an example of what I say about sponsors and magazine/site politics.
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HogPilot
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| Diddern wrote: | Jeep like i say, ,do not believe everything you read or hear. And specialy when some klames something and have other interests. Or maby not a clue what they are saying. But some people belive. Hehe
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Yes, unfortunately portions of the A/V industry - to include reviewers - remain resistant to accepting the relativity and bias of the human sensory system. On top of that it seems that many are completely incapable of acknowledging their personal biases when presenting opinions about A/V gear, and place far too much stock in their ability to accurately compare the fidelity of two pieces of related gear. Objective measurement is a crucial part to reviewing any A/V component, as it lends legitimacy to our observations and roots them in fact. Unfortunately there are plenty of rags like hometheaterreview.com that still pawn their 3rd party marketing tripe off as "reviews."
| Andreas21 wrote: | | This is an example of what I say about sponsors and magazine/site politics. |
Yeah, HTR's chief editor clearly has built a business model on writing favorable fluff pieces to attract advertising money. Objective, reality-based reporting is certainly not a priority there, yet they still present themselves as a "review" site. They're anything but that.
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| kal wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | http://www.minhembio.com/21Andreas |
Nice HT!
Looking at this picture here: http://www.minhembio.com/bilder/bild/?pic_id=418978.jpg
I was surprised to see so many Blu-ray discs but barely any DVDs! I still have a ton around even after selling off most for movies that I bought again on Blu-ray.
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Thanks!
I sold my DVD collection in 2006/7 when I saw my first HD DVD movie, and I have never seen a DVD in my HT since then.
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | I sold my DVD collection in 2006/7 when I saw my first HD DVD movie, and I have never seen a DVD in my HT since then. |
I wish I'd had the foresight to do the same. Now, my collection of a couple of hundred DVDs stays around as a reminder to be much more selective about my movie buying. Even though I bought many of my DVDs on sale, used, etc. I have no doubt that I sunk $3000 or more into them in the 5-7 years or so I was buying them.
I now buy way, way fewer BD's. Probably only 50 or so in the last 5 years, and then only either the special stuff, kids' movies, or something for a meet.
I have started watching craigslist, and even in my smaller metro locale, I've started seeing some people selling off good lots of BDs for very good prices - <$5 ea on average. I'd have picked some up, but I just don't get excited about buying like I used to.
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And why should you, when you can pick up what you want at redbox, netflix or online. A lot cheaper than owning. I will never understand those that need petabyte hard drives to have millions of movies at their fingertips. There are very few movies that I want to rewatch multiple times.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | I will never understand those that need petabyte hard drives to have millions of movies at their fingertips. There are very few movies that I want to rewatch multiple times. |
Ditto.
I only want some kind of media server just for a bunch of demo clips I do like to watch over and over... Sort of a gigantic AVS BD Demo of sorts... A theme park ride you can ride over and over.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | | I will never understand those that need petabyte hard drives to have millions of movies at their fingertips. There are very few movies that I want to rewatch multiple times. |
Ditto.
I only want some kind of media server just for a bunch of demo clips I do like to watch over and over... Sort of a gigantic AVS BD Demo of sorts... A theme park ride you can ride over and over.
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Was that some kind of code description for porn??
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Well i put brand new P19Lugs into my Cine9 yesterday and i can tell that this maschine throws an absolute stunning picture !
Perfection when it comes to:
- greyscale
- primaries/secondaries
- gamma
- fade to black and contrast
- motion
Sorry Sony VW-1000 or VW-500 you'll have to wait till i'll switch.
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| ElTopo wrote: | Well i put brand new P19Lugs into my Cine9 yesterday and i can tell that this maschine throws an absolute stunning picture !
Perfection when it comes to:
- greyscale
- primaries/secondaries
- gamma
- fade to black and contrast
- motion
Sorry Sony VW-1000 or VW-500 you'll have to wait till i'll switch.
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I have newer said that you don't get a stunning picture out of a cine9 or a CRT of Corse you do , but dream on, dream on, dream on.
This is just like the topic Eisemann-Theater Simulation Grade Tubes better than VW1000ES hehe
LOL
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Greg...
Can you post some screenshots of the 1:1 resolution on the 1080P SMPTE pattern on one of your fully moddet 909 machines.?
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