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Eisemann mods for Barco Cine 9
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:46 am    Post subject: Eisemann mods for Barco Cine 9

Who has done or seen these mods? I just had a bit of a read of the website and it seems as though itll fix all these issues i seem to have.

Im thinking i might get a kits put through my Cine 9 to go with my new simulation grade tubes.
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mx83toy



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:21 am    Post subject:

This fixes everything Smile

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the big E



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject:

mx83toy wrote:
This fixes everything Smile



Um Laughing Laughing couldn't resist Very Happy

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject:

MX, if you step up to an NEX XG then step to a stock Barco, you will understand mate Wink
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the big E



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject:

Case you know modding these crt sets is fun so do it and post the results

Soon to be getting a modded marquee 9500LC(another 9inch set) not sure if I will swap my vidikron case over to it or not(I prefer the look of it)

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:27 am    Post subject:

Its no fun when you work 6 days a week, so if i can pay someone else that claims to be able to make it perfect, id sooner do that than do it myself.
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ElTopo



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject:

I don't think you need to mod. Put new tubes in and enjoy.

Especially do not mod or change the temperature section.


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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:55 am    Post subject:

I plan to put in the new tubes and enjoy, thy're sitting here in my lounge room, but i dont enjoy flickering lines in bright scenes and noise!!
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the big E



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
I plan to put in the new tubes and enjoy, thy're sitting here in my lounge room, but i dont enjoy flickering lines in bright scenes and noise!!


Be glad you don't have uneven wear(would fix it but the software I have to make patterns for that has went m.i.a from non use)
Anyway that's getting fixed soon as I am getting 9inch lc tubes to put in my marquee (and at a sweet price too)

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:53 am    Post subject:

I DO have uneven wear...
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the big E



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
I DO have uneven wear...


Opps my bad(been busy lately)
but I know how you feel my green tube has uneven wear in two different sizes Sad luckily it doesn't show all the time but when it does it bugs me like crazy( yet the red and blue doesn't show a hint of wear at close to 3k hours)
Unfortantly tubes for my set isn't cheap and I ended up getting a parts marquee(at least I was told it was a parts set) for the tubes(tubes are near mint if not mint) hopefully by the time I change what I need over I can enjoy my set without the uneven wear

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject:

My blue also has text wear.
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the big E



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:20 pm    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
My blue also has text wear.


My blue doesn't have any wear and my red doesn't have that I can see

How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)

I plan on selling what parts I don't use to curt after I do my upgrade

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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject:

the big E wrote:
How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)


Oh, oh! I know!! Very Happy
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the big E



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject:

joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)


Oh, oh! I know!! Very Happy
ok then spill the beans Smile
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject:

the big E wrote:
joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)


Oh, oh! I know!! Very Happy
ok then spill the beans Smile


I'm no expert in such matters. But the first thought that came to mind was the colour of the text. But if the text was pure white, then I don't have an explanation... Smile
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject:

joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)


Oh, oh! I know!! Very Happy
ok then spill the beans Smile


I'm no expert in such matters. But the first thought that came to mind was the colour of the text. But if the text was pure white, then I don't have an explanation... Smile


From what i understand in here, it seems like the BARCO 909 is fast to burn tubes.

Maybe the LUG tubes burn much faster.?

The Marquee 9500LC seems to run a lot of hours before showing visible burn. I have often wondered if its the tubes, ot the extreme massive high mass alu LC housing, keeping the tubes much colder.?
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject:

stridsvognen wrote:
joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
joatmon wrote:
the big E wrote:
How the heck did one tube get text wear when the others didn't(unless the green has it also)


Oh, oh! I know!! Very Happy
ok then spill the beans Smile


I'm no expert in such matters. But the first thought that came to mind was the colour of the text. But if the text was pure white, then I don't have an explanation... Smile


From what i understand in here, it seems like the BARCO 909 is fast to burn tubes.

Maybe the LUG tubes burn much faster.?

The Marquee 9500LC seems to run a lot of hours before showing visible burn. I have often wondered if its the tubes, ot the extreme massive high mass alu LC housing, keeping the tubes much colder.?


I think it's not the tubes, but the way they are driven, the factory G90s are also notoriously burning the tubes, they can show visible wear after only 1000hrs, but with a proper and careful setup they also can last as long as others, I guess this is the case with the 909 too, although the specs saying 1200 peak lumens like to its predecessor, I bet they pushed the tubes harder in the 909, than say in a 1209.

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ElTopo



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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject:

Check the option CRTDriveMode inside the Cine9/909

You can choose between Normal, Economic.....

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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject:

There are 4 options for tube drive. I see zero reasons to ever believe Cine 9s burn tubes fast at all, these have 6,496 hours on them and only show light wear on green, both blue and green have text wear which i posted a picture of in my Cine 9 thread. Its caused by previous owner obviously not being quick enough to turn off his Yoga DVD title screen, instead, left it running for a long time.
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