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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:08 am Post subject: Thinking of parting out my 10pg |
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Well the time has come to make a decision and I have been thinking of parting out my nec and let other pg owners get some working spares
The only board in the set that acts up is the gain board and I haven't had the time to recap it(i think that's the only thing wrong with the set)
I am having to make this decision as I have two other projectors and a projection tv so I have enough displays to do me and I am upgrading my marquee to be a 9500LC set and my nec is just taking up space as it is right now
If I do part it out I will ship boards and power supply but the tubes will have to be picked up as I would hate for them to get smashed in shipping(9 on all three according to curts tube wear chart and barely 2k hours on them)
If anybody needs parts just pm me
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: |
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How do you know the other boards work? What have you used to test them? Or are you selling them as untested?
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | How do you know the other boards work? What have you used to test them? Or are you selling them as untested? |
They are currently in the set as it was when I got it but I do have some untested spares for the set(I will take some time and test them) but both gain boards need new caps other then that the set works just I haven't had the time to deal with it and its taking up space
I hate to really do this but I need the space
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:40 am Post subject: |
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If its not working, i dont know for sure what your issue is, but gain CTL board caps are very unlikely to be the only issue.
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | If its not working, i dont know for sure what your issue is, but gain CTL board caps are very unlikely to be the only issue. |
Not long after I got it the video faded to green then black I got another gain board and now only the red and blue tubes show a picture from the input the green just shows the menus also if I mute the green its like the brightness has been turned up to max as it shows the raster
Also if I use the s video/video it is like the brightness has been turned up to max on the green and red tubes
If I could get it working I wouldn't mind it taking up space  as the pluses of the set would make it worth it
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So fix it, you keep saying you know what youre doing, its easy to replace capacitors.
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | So fix it, you keep saying you know what youre doing, its easy to replace capacitors. |
Thing to that case I can't risk my first try on it and screw it up plus it would take me a lot longer to do it now if I can get curt to test one of the two he has I may just replace the board
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| the big E wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | If its not working, i dont know for sure what your issue is, but gain CTL board caps are very unlikely to be the only issue. |
Not long after I got it the video faded to green then black I got another gain board and now only the red and blue tubes show a picture from the input the green just shows the menus also if I mute the green its like the brightness has been turned up to max as it shows the raster
Also if I use the s video/video it is like the brightness has been turned up to max on the green and red tubes
If I could get it working I wouldn't mind it taking up space as the pluses of the set would make it worth it |
If the green only shows the menus, have you checked that that tiny sh*t coax cable from the gain board to the green plug on the video board is ACTUALLY making a connection? Those damn cables break! Also from the front input board TO the gain board. Swap the red and green and see if it moves.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Tinman wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | If its not working, i dont know for sure what your issue is, but gain CTL board caps are very unlikely to be the only issue. |
Not long after I got it the video faded to green then black I got another gain board and now only the red and blue tubes show a picture from the input the green just shows the menus also if I mute the green its like the brightness has been turned up to max as it shows the raster
Also if I use the s video/video it is like the brightness has been turned up to max on the green and red tubes
If I could get it working I wouldn't mind it taking up space as the pluses of the set would make it worth it |
If the green only shows the menus, have you checked that that tiny sh*t coax cable from the gain board to the green plug on the video board is ACTUALLY making a connection? Those damn cables break! Also from the front input board TO the gain board. Swap the red and green and see if it moves. |
The ones from the gain board to the output board is that the cables I need to try and swap around?
If yes then I will try that and post the outcome
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Tinman wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | If its not working, i dont know for sure what your issue is, but gain CTL board caps are very unlikely to be the only issue. |
Not long after I got it the video faded to green then black I got another gain board and now only the red and blue tubes show a picture from the input the green just shows the menus also if I mute the green its like the brightness has been turned up to max as it shows the raster
Also if I use the s video/video it is like the brightness has been turned up to max on the green and red tubes
If I could get it working I wouldn't mind it taking up space as the pluses of the set would make it worth it |
If the green only shows the menus, have you checked that that tiny sh*t coax cable from the gain board to the green plug on the video board is ACTUALLY making a connection? Those damn cables break! Also from the front input board TO the gain board. Swap the red and green and see if it moves. |
I just checked the connections and swapped the green with the red and the problem followed(I swapped the cables from the gain board to the output board)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Well there you go, you were going to part out a set for the wrong reason.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Well there you go, you were going to part out a set for the wrong reason. |
What do you mean?(its 2 am here so my thinking isn't real clear)
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I mean fix the damn thing and use it!!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | I mean fix the damn thing and use it!! |
Will do
since I know which board is the culprit for sure I am going to have curt test one and make sure it works before he ships it and hope and pray it doesn't get damaged in shipping like the one in the set(also from curt)
I would love to enjoy this set since I got a sample of what it can do and the LC optics would elemanate the halos(hence why I am converting my marquee over to LC optics)
I may setup a second screen sometime just for this set(I have plenty of room should I decide to do that) and have two home theater setups(also have a extra hdmi convertor) then compare them
I have already zeroed out the geometry settings and convergence(not the point thought)along with the focus(which is really clear and sharp)
Once I zeroed out my marquee the picture blew me away so the nec will have to be impressive to top it(most likely it will)
Now I just wonder if I should just run it till the tubes are toast or not unless something else fails in the set before that(eg low voltage power supply)given how rare the set is it would be hard to get tubes for it
Only thing I haven't done yet is tinmans fan mod(not sure if I can slow the fans and have it on the floor or not)
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You will need to get the astig perfect and then adjust the focus, after that the 10PG will eat the 8110 for breakfast. Its a better machine in almost every respect.
Leave the fan mod out of it, slowing down fans is not a great idea for long term durability.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | You will need to get the astig perfect and then adjust the focus, after that the 10PG will eat the 8110 for breakfast. Its a better machine in almost every respect.
Leave the fan mod out of it, slowing down fans is not a great idea for long term durability. |
On the pg9's I'd agree with that, but the PG10 is so big that it tolerates slower fans just fine. It has MUCH more air space in it, and remember these projectors were rated to run at extreme conditions.
I did a fan mod on mine before I sold it, it made a HUGE difference in the annoyance factor. But the biggest gains can be had by putting the 2 fans on the power supply on rubber isolators. The air they move isn't the problem, but the fans vibrate with a high pitch sound through the entire chassis. Using rubber PC fan mounts made them "go away" without even slowing them down. Which, btw, are the 2 fans you should NOT slow down!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Tinman wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | You will need to get the astig perfect and then adjust the focus, after that the 10PG will eat the 8110 for breakfast. Its a better machine in almost every respect.
Leave the fan mod out of it, slowing down fans is not a great idea for long term durability. |
On the pg9's I'd agree with that, but the PG10 is so big that it tolerates slower fans just fine. It has MUCH more air space in it, and remember these projectors were rated to run at extreme conditions.
I did a fan mod on mine before I sold it, it made a HUGE difference in the annoyance factor. But the biggest gains can be had by putting the 2 fans on the power supply on rubber isolators. The air they move isn't the problem, but the fans vibrate with a high pitch sound through the entire chassis. Using rubber PC fan mounts made them "go away" without even slowing them down. Which, btw, are the 2 fans you should NOT slow down!
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I agree the 10PG is a huge beast(bigger then my marquee) and the main fans I do find annoying is the ones on the power supply(just got to get it fixed before I get the rubber mounts for those fans)
It takes at least two maybe three people to move it easy
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Yeah while that may be the case, if you put on a heater in the cooler months the temps will rise, and the more air flow the better. They are dead quiet compared to an XG anyway!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Yeah while that may be the case, if you put on a heater in the cooler months the temps will rise, and the more air flow the better. They are dead quiet compared to an XG anyway!! |
The nearest heat source would be a wood burning stove(still 30-35 feet away) which only gets used if needed in the winter months other then that central heating is used mostly and my viewing room temp rarely gets above the lower 70's
Now if I were using the set in my work building the fans would be a different story I plan on just putting rubber mounts on the power supply fans as the others don't annoy me as much as those do plus I am used to hearing air move anyway
I am happy to get the set with such low hours on the tubes and them not have a major wear pattern or burn in
I am getting some different fans for my Ecp and they will have the rubber mounts I need to do the mod on the power supply fans in my nec
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I once had a ThermalTake Xaser3 full tower with 16x 80mm case fans in it, the fan noise from these is nothing. 
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