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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:33 pm Post subject: Oblivion [Blu-ray] |
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Another reference disc!
Oblivion (Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy + UltraViolet) (2013)
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| Quote: | 'Oblivion' does indeed borrow a lot of its plot and twists from other sci-fi movies, but its look is wholly original. Kosinski has a keen eye for putting together a visually lush film. Cruise does exactly what he does almost every time he's asked to lead a film; he nails it. I found 'Oblivion' exciting, beautiful, and rewatchable, which is a lot more than I can say about many of this year's summer films. It comes highly recommended on all fronts. Even if you don't like the movie, the demo material this disc provides is some of the best you'll find anywhere.
The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
For those that were hoping for IMAX aspect ratio shifting like 'The Dark Knight,' you'll be disappointed here. 'Oblivion's 1080p picture is framed at a constant 2.40:1. While it doesn't have the full frame IMAX feel during some of the more action-packed scenes, 'Oblivion' still remains a beautiful movie to look at regardless.
Kosinski's technically artistic eye is always present. Take for example the sky home that Jack and Victoria live in. That isn't green screen you're seeing outside. It's a modern take on front projection. Those are real clouds and real sunsets. Many of his in-camera techniques lend themselves to making a spotless high-def presentation. Almost every scene is in stunning clarity, but it never looks un-cinematic.
Detail is mind-blowingly clear. Everything from the tiniest reflection in the sleek futuristic surfaces of the sky home, to the majesty of Cruise's ageless hair follicles. Everything comes across as clear as you'd expect. Even nighttime scenes are perfectly visible. Shadows are natural and wonderfully delineated. I didn't notice any ugly anomalies. No banding. No aliasing. Nothing but eye candy as far as the eye can see.
If you were hoping for a switching aspect ratio Blu-ray, then I'm sorry - this release isn't for you. However, none of the film's beauty has been diminished. If you're looking for a demo-quality disc to show off your home theater system with, then this one is it.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
The DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 mix is just as impressive. The electronic techno beat pulses through this presentation like something possessed. It feels (literally feels) like 'Tron: Legacy.' The bass is unmistakable and unforgettable. It rumbles passionately causing complete sensory enjoyment.
The movie's action uses pinpoint directionality. As the bubble ship flies through slim canyons, it seamlessly transports its sound from speaker to speaker creating the illusion that it's flying across your living room. The added side channels provide a wonderfully enveloping ambiance that truly makes the presentation demo material.
Dialogue is always clear, even though this is one of those movies where people dramatically whisper a lot. Rear channels are almost always engaged with some sort of frenzied futuristic activity. Like I said, the LFE is out of control... in a good way. Everything about this audio mix will make audiophiles drool. More demo-quality for your collection. |
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best movie ole Tom has ever had the Privilege of leading in. He did a great job,just an excellent movie all the way around
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| draganm wrote: | | best movie ole Tom has ever had the Privilege of leading in. He did a great job,just an excellent movie all the way around |
+1!
I don't dislike Tom Cruise like some do... I've actually liked some of his movies, but this one in particular was cool.
The behind-the-scenese were really cool, too... In all the scenes of the actors in the "cloud house", the environment - the sky and clouds - was real video projected on giant screen outside the house built on a soundstage.
The scale of these productions is just mind-boggling to me. It's really not hard to understand why they cost $100M or more to make.
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+2 What Steve said !
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| ecrabb wrote: | The behind-the-scenese were really cool, too... In all the scenes of the actors in the "cloud house", the environment - the sky and clouds - was real video projected on giant screen outside the house built on a soundstage.
The scale of these productions is just mind-boggling to me. It's really not hard to understand why they cost $100M or more to make. |
Agreed! I was watching these extras and it's just so over the top. I have so much respect for someone who goes way overboard just to get something 'better' that most of the audience may not even notice much but I certainly did - the house in the clouds has some much glass and reflective surfaces. If you end up blue or green screening this it just doesn't feel the same. The 21 projectors they used to display the backgrounds on the 500 x 42 foot screen was a good example. Talk about an insane setup, let alone the work that went into filming the content for it (they flew to a volcano top in Hawaii to film it for 2-3 weeks).
An article about it here which I found interesting: http://www.fdtimes.com/2013/03/29/claudio-miranda-asc-on-oblivion/
I absolutely loved the look of this movie - I could have easily turned the 2 hour movie into 3 as there were so many moments where I wanted to just pause and take it all in.
In a way it reminds of the movie Moon with Sam Rockwell (FYI - only $9.99 right now - buy using this link and support the forum!  ) both for the tone, production design, and some plot ideas I don't want to give away...
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I just watched this last night and all I can say is that it's some of the best images I have yet seen- true reference material that makes you realize just how good non-4K material can be. The scenes where he was flying through the canyons had so much depth that one could swear it was 3-D!
This along with MI:4 are two of the recent Cruise films that really exceeded my expectations. Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad...
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| kal wrote: | In a way it reminds of the movie Moon with Sam Rockwell (FYI - only $9.99 right now - buy using this link and support the forum! ) both for the tone, production design, and some plot ideas I don't want to give away...
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I watched Oblivion a couple days ago and I really liked it 4/5 stars from me. However, it did seem kind of Moon like to me as well. If you haven't seen Moon you should absolutely see it.
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | I just watched this last night and all I can say is that it's some of the best images I have yet seen- true reference material that makes you realize just how good non-4K material can be. The scenes where he was flying through the canyons had so much depth that one could swear it was 3-D!
This along with MI:4 are two of the recent Cruise films that really exceeded my expectations. Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
Frankly, I like Tom Cruise. He gets slammed a lot because he plays the same personality in every movie he's in which I guess makes him technically less of an actor. That being said, I have liked almost every movie he's been in... seriously.
Check out Jack Reacher if you haven't. Another that I give 4/5 stars. Really great action movie with some twists.
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | Frankly, I like Tom Cruise. He gets slammed a lot because he plays the same personality in every movie he's in which I guess makes him technically less of an actor. That being said, I have liked almost every movie he's been in... seriously.
Check out Jack Reacher if you haven't. Another that I give 4/5 stars. Really great action movie with some twists. |
Ditto on both counts.
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | I just watched this last night and all I can say is that it's some of the best images I have yet seen- true reference material that makes you realize just how good non-4K material can be. The scenes where he was flying through the canyons had so much depth that one could swear it was 3-D!
This along with MI:4 are two of the recent Cruise films that really exceeded my expectations. Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
Frankly, I like Tom Cruise. He gets slammed a lot because he plays the same personality in every movie he's in which I guess makes him technically less of an actor. That being said, I have liked almost every movie he's been in... seriously.
Check out Jack Reacher if you haven't. Another that I give 4/5 stars. Really great action movie with some twists.
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I think he has evolved since his early days but he does tend to play a similar role personality wise (but then again most of Hollywood does this). I saw Jack Reacher and thought it was a little ridiculous (bathroom scene) but I liked Robert Duvall in his role. I thought Oblivion was much better.
I'd say that the Last Samurai is a film in which he definitely didn't play the same character. I need to get that on Blu-Ray for sure..
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | CIR Engineering wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | I just watched this last night and all I can say is that it's some of the best images I have yet seen- true reference material that makes you realize just how good non-4K material can be. The scenes where he was flying through the canyons had so much depth that one could swear it was 3-D!
This along with MI:4 are two of the recent Cruise films that really exceeded my expectations. Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
Frankly, I like Tom Cruise. He gets slammed a lot because he plays the same personality in every movie he's in which I guess makes him technically less of an actor. That being said, I have liked almost every movie he's been in... seriously.
Check out Jack Reacher if you haven't. Another that I give 4/5 stars. Really great action movie with some twists.
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I think he has evolved since his early days but he does tend to play a similar role personality wise (but then again most of Hollywood does this). I saw Jack Reacher and thought it was a little ridiculous (bathroom scene) but I liked Robert Duvall in his role. I thought Oblivion was much better.
I'd say that the Last Samurai is a film in which he definitely didn't play the same character. I need to get that on Blu-Ray for sure.. |
I really liked Last Samurai, but every time I think about that movie I can't help remembering a joke from the Chappelle show (Tom Hanks) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAEgUKUIzc
IMHO Tom's character may have been marginally different than his usual roles, but his personality remained the same even though I totally liked that movie. I mean, even in Rain Man his personality was the same, but I still like the movie.
To me, Jack Reacher was a good action / suspense movie. Not a great movie, but for the genre I feel it was among the best and sometimes I just like to kick back and watch movies of the type. It's sort of in the same place as MI and the Bourn legacy (which I also like).
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Hey Craig,
Did you like Rock of Ages  That's one hell of a pretty movie; the colors just burst off the screen. Tom definitely played a different character there and he put forth the only good performance in the movie.
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | Hey Craig,
Did you like Rock of Ages That's one hell of a pretty movie; the colors just burst off the screen. Tom definitely played a different character there and he put forth the only good performance in the movie. |
Interesting... that was one movie that my wife and I made it like 10 minutes and then turned it off. I forgot Tom was even in that when I was trying to think of bad TC movies.
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | Hey Craig,
Did you like Rock of Ages That's one hell of a pretty movie; the colors just burst off the screen. Tom definitely played a different character there and he put forth the only good performance in the movie. |
Interesting... that was one movie that my wife and I made it like 10 minutes and then turned it off. I forgot Tom was even in that when I was trying to think of bad TC movies.
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We went to see that in the theater and my wife got up and left after 10 minutes..LOL It's an idiotic film and the singing is terrible but I find myself watching it when it's on HBO just because of the eye candy visuals. The scene's in the nightclub display primary colors that make the image just pop off the screen. I read in HT mag that it was shot with the 2K Aria camera.
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
because it's hard to understand. My kids who are 9 and 10 had trouble understanding what was happening,they want ot see it again so they can figure it out.
So my only conclusion is the average movie goer in this country has the intellect of a 9 year old without the curiosity that forms the basis of human intelligence. Its just DDUHHHH, give me a simpe plot with lots of shooting and 5 word sentences max.
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| draganm wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
because it's hard to understand. My kids who are 9 and 10 had trouble understanding what was happening,they want ot see it again so they can figure it out.
So my only conclusion is the average movie goer in this country has the intellect of a 9 year old without the curiosity that forms the basis of human intelligence. Its just DDUHHHH, give me a simpe plot with lots of shooting and 5 word sentences max. |
Could be true though I didn't find it hard to understand. There must be some reason we have so many crap movies with dull predictable plots that still make huge profits.
I do like that in Oblivion they didn't hold your hand and spell everything out for the viewer. You did have to make deductions and realized on your own without a character telling you exactly what was going on.
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | I think he has evolved since his early days but he does tend to play a similar role personality wise (but then again most of Hollywood does this). |
Am I the only one who thinks Harrison Ford is another one-note actor? Every movie I see him in (which admittedly hasn't been all THAT many), it's just an older version of Han Solo or Indiana Jones.
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I just finished watching Oblivion. It had a slow start for me, and I thought I was going to disappointed as I was really looking forward to it. It redeemed itself about the time Morgan Freemans character came into the story and the plot started to thicken up and gel. Great PQ and AQ as with most every big-budget BD these days.
Tom did a fine job in it for me, but Morgan was better IMO, even without as much screen-time. No extras on the RedBox rental version, which is again par these days for big-budget BDs.
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| garyfritz wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | I think he has evolved since his early days but he does tend to play a similar role personality wise (but then again most of Hollywood does this). |
Am I the only one who thinks Harrison Ford is another one-note actor? Every movie I see him in (which admittedly hasn't been all THAT many), it's just an older version of Han Solo or Indiana Jones. |
C'mon Han Solo and Indiana Jone are THE two coolest characters in cinematic history 
I disagree; he had many roles in the 1980's; Witness, Mosquito Coast, Blade Runner and Regarding Henry that were nothing like Han Solo or Indiana Jones. He's also done films like Morning Glory and Crossing Over in recent years that are a departure from his action oriented roles. At the end of the day, no matter how good a perfromance he gives he'll be remembered for Indy and Han.
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Not sure why audiences slammed this film so bad... |
because it's hard to understand. My kids who are 9 and 10 had trouble understanding what was happening,they want ot see it again so they can figure it out.
So my only conclusion is the average movie goer in this country has the intellect of a 9 year old without the curiosity that forms the basis of human intelligence. Its just DDUHHHH, give me a simpe plot with lots of shooting and 5 word sentences max. |
Could be true though I didn't find it hard to understand. There must be some reason we have so many crap movies with dull predictable plots that still make huge profits. |
your obviously not the average movie goer. Even if sc-fi didn't appeal to you I would have expected you'd stay just for the eye candy. I mean holy crap, they filmed inside Volcanoes in Iceland 
| CIR Engineering wrote: | I do like that in Oblivion they didn't hold your hand and spell everything out for the viewer. You did have to make deductions and realized on your own without a character telling you exactly what was going on.
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exactly, you had to think and come to your own conclusions based on what was presented, which emmediatetly alienated 99% of Fox news watchers. 
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