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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | HogPilot wrote: | | This is almost as entertaining as watching Charlie Sheen crash and burn. |
Yeah, but instead your driving. I said I was done with the original topic but if you want to continue the bickering I'm fine with that.
So where do you want to start. How about, you clearly have no idea of what you talking about and just want to insite disagreement.... Your turn. |
Firstly, it's "you're," not "your." The former is the contraction for "you are," whereas the latter is a possessive pronoun. "Insite" isn't even a word, but solid try with the hooked-on-phonics spelling there.
| macgyver655 wrote: | | Post what ever you want now. Feel free to call me a few names if you want and continue with how I know nothing about the insides if projectors. I won't comment back so wack away..... |
So much for that - you held out for one whopping post before I goaded you back. You're far too easy...
But yes, please, let's start. Here's what we have:
1. Not a single documented instance of this supposed optical engine heat damage in any JVC RS-, HD-, or X-series projector since the original RS1/HD1 back in 2007. Zero. Out of millions of hours of operation, you can't present a SINGLE case to justify the purchase of a UPS.
2. Next we have your supposed conversation with JVC, of which you shared zero here. But they told you some big secret that you're going to keep to yourself. More likely, they told you nothing, but you can't combine that with the nothing you have from point 1, so instead you've concocted the idea of some grand secret that will make all of us sorry we ever disagreed with you. An excellently played ruse, if you're in 2nd grade.
3. You have yet to divulge this supposed massive amount of experience you have working on any of the projectors mentioned above in item 1. As with item 2, it is likely that this is because you have no experience, and have probably never even seen one in person. Oh, but wait, you've opened up cheapo digital projectors before, and all digitals are the same, so you everything about all of them right? What a joke.
Combine all that nothingness with an imagined doomsday scenario, a healthy dose of vitriolic indignity and a picture of an RPTV light engine with burnt components, and we have a bunch of angry whining from you with zero substance actually addressing kal's original question.
Let me condense this down and put it bluntly so even you can understand it: either present us with documentation of your doomsday light-engine burn-up actually occurring in any of the projectors I listed in item 1, or shut the f*ck up.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| HogPilot wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | HogPilot wrote: | | This is almost as entertaining as watching Charlie Sheen crash and burn. |
Yeah, but instead your driving. I said I was done with the original topic but if you want to continue the bickering I'm fine with that.
So where do you want to start. How about, you clearly have no idea of what you talking about and just want to insite disagreement.... Your turn. |
Firstly, it's "you're," not "your." The former is the contraction for "you are," whereas the latter is a possessive pronoun. "Insite" isn't even a word, but solid try with the hooked-on-phonics spelling there.
| macgyver655 wrote: | | Post what ever you want now. Feel free to call me a few names if you want and continue with how I know nothing about the insides if projectors. I won't comment back so wack away..... |
So much for that - you held out for one whopping post before I goaded you back. You're far too easy...
But yes, please, let's start. Here's what we have:
1. Not a single documented instance of this supposed optical engine heat damage in any JVC RS-, HD-, or X-series projector since the original RS1/HD1 back in 2007. Zero. Out of millions of hours of operation, you can't present a SINGLE case to justify the purchase of a UPS.
2. Next we have your supposed conversation with JVC, of which you shared zero here. But they told you some big secret that you're going to keep to yourself. More likely, they told you nothing, but you can't combine that with the nothing you have from point 1, so instead you've concocted the idea of some grand secret that will make all of us sorry we ever disagreed with you. An excellently played ruse, if you're in 2nd grade.
3. You have yet to divulge this supposed massive amount of experience you have working on any of the projectors mentioned above in item 1. As with item 2, it is likely that this is because you have no experience, and have probably never even seen one in person. Oh, but wait, you've opened up cheapo digital projectors before, and all digitals are the same, so you everything about all of them right? What a joke.
Combine all that nothingness with an imagined doomsday scenario, a healthy dose of vitriolic indignity and a picture of an RPTV light engine with burnt components, and we have a bunch of angry whining from you with zero substance actually addressing kal's original question.
Let me condense this down and put it bluntly so even you can understand it: either present us with documentation of your doomsday light-engine burn-up actually occurring in any of the projectors I listed in item 1, or shut the f*ck up. |
That's too long like most of your your you're your you're drivally posts so shorten it up if you know how and then maybe I can tell you how wrong you are more times.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Kal. Sorry about your crap fest thread. I tried to clean it up for you but these 2 clowns just want to continue flinging sh*t for no apparent reason then self gratification.
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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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What are you taking about? You've been great entertainment!
Your lack of cogent response speaks volumes, so don't worry about trying another reply. You'll just continue to embarrass yourself.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| HogPilot wrote: | What are you taking about? You've been great entertainment!
Your lack of cogent response speaks volumes, so don't worry about trying another reply. You'll just continue to embarrass yourself. |
I believe that shoe is on your foot. Your speeches on RPTV are utterly comical. As I stated earlier, you have no idea of what you are talking about. Please continue...... 
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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | HogPilot wrote: | What are you taking about? You've been great entertainment!
Your lack of cogent response speaks volumes, so don't worry about trying another reply. You'll just continue to embarrass yourself. |
I believe that shoe is on your foot. Your speeches on RPTV are utterly comical. As I stated earlier, you have no idea of what you are talking about. Please continue...... |
More deflect, deny, and avoid from you. My points above are quite reasonable. If you had 1) knowledge of the projectors that are the subject of this thread, or 2) any knowledge of this supposed issue in said projectors, you would have divulged something - anything - a long time ago. Instead you spend your time whining and telling everyone else in this thread how little they know while presenting zero information yourself. What a joke.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | Interesting, Mac isn't returning my emails. Go figure. |
He's mad at us for making Hog a moderator. He took his ball and went home.
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mr_ro_co
Joined: 08 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | mr_ro_co wrote: | Elvis has left the building. I mean, Ace has left the sandbox, and he's taking all his toys, or rather, posts with him, raking up the sand after him, covering his tracks and all evidence of his non-contribution to this thread. Especially that recent rather long one. Not to worry, we didn't miss anything. I glanced over it - it was merely an unreadable bitch session.
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Boy, you just can't stand that fact that you lost in that UPS thread and keep trying to come back with something. I mean if anyone's posts here have provided absolutely "NOTHING" to this thread it's yours. I laugh at your attempts...  |
Is that so? You mean the one where, like here, you added nothing whatsoever of value or actually responded in any helpful manner to the original information request? The one where others kept claiming that determining UPS battery runtime is by the "size" of the UPS? The one where I kept trying to correct this erroneous claim by patiently explaining that battery runtime is actually determined by sizing the energy capacity of the battery reservoir for supporting the real inverter draw from what's typically a derated figure based on its maximum dissipation while it supplies the load device in question? The one where you must have spent a lot of time searching high and low for dissipation curves on specific APC models so that you could make the case that a grossly underutilized (read, waste of money) UPS would indeed run slightly longer on a given battery bank than a smaller, fully utilized (read, optimized capacity) UPS would at its rated dissipation on the same battery bank?
As I tried my best to explain to you then, the problem with your silly little distraction is no one actually sizes UPS or its battery runtime capacity based on comparing dissipation curves between different sized UPS. No one. Because it's moronic in its wastefulness. There are real, big wasted infrastructure concerns such as "stranded power" that come from the high cost of the uselessly oversized feeder breakers, STS/ATS, transformers - really the entire distribution upstream of the UPS would then have to be way oversized and maintained for an ampacity requirement to service what would be a grossly oversized and underutilized UPS. You clearly have no appreciation for such concepts, and this is probably a function of the limits of your experience from being restricted to the domain of repairing consumer electronics.
What I told Curt then was exactly how you go about selecting a UPS and the needed battery runtime. You did not. Instead, you hijacked the thread and demanded that I admit that you were right about an inverter dissipation curve from an inverter at 50% being less than an inverter half its size at 100%. You are talking about that tread, right?
Referring to your big win on that UPS thread is indeed very apropos to your specific non-contribution on this thread as well. Thanks for bringing that up for eveyone's benefit here. Maybe you should go erase all your posts on that thread too!
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mr_ro_co wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | mr_ro_co wrote: | Elvis has left the building. I mean, Ace has left the sandbox, and he's taking all his toys, or rather, posts with him, raking up the sand after him, covering his tracks and all evidence of his non-contribution to this thread. Especially that recent rather long one. Not to worry, we didn't miss anything. I glanced over it - it was merely an unreadable bitch session.
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Boy, you just can't stand that fact that you lost in that UPS thread and keep trying to come back with something. I mean if anyone's posts here have provided absolutely "NOTHING" to this thread it's yours. I laugh at your attempts... |
Is that so? You mean the one where, like here, you added nothing whatsoever of value or actually responded in any helpful manner to the original information request? The one where others kept claiming that determining UPS battery runtime is by the "size" of the UPS? The one where I kept trying to correct this erroneous claim by patiently explaining that battery runtime is actually determined by sizing the energy capacity of the battery reservoir for supporting the real inverter draw from what's typically a derated figure based on its maximum dissipation while it supplies the load device in question? The one where you must have spent a lot of time searching high and low for dissipation curves on specific APC models so that you could make the case that a grossly underutilized (read, waste of money) UPS would indeed run slightly longer on a given battery bank than a smaller, fully utilized (read, optimized capacity) UPS would at its rated dissipation on the same battery bank?
As I tried my best to explain to you then, the problem with your silly little distraction is no one actually sizes UPS or its battery runtime capacity based on comparing dissipation curves between different sized UPS. No one. Because it's moronic in its wastefulness. There are real, big wasted infrastructure concerns such as "stranded power" that come from the high cost of the uselessly oversized feeder breakers, STS/ATS, transformers - really the entire distribution upstream of the UPS would then have to be way oversized and maintained for an ampacity requirement to service what would be a grossly oversized and underutilized UPS. You clearly have no appreciation for such concepts, and this is probably a function of the limits of your experience from being restricted to the domain of repairing consumer electronics.
What I told Curt then was exactly how you go about selecting a UPS and the needed battery runtime. You did not. Instead, you hijacked the thread and demanded that I admit that you were right about an inverter dissipation curve from an inverter at 50% being less than an inverter half its size at 100%. You are talking about that tread, right?
Referring to your big win on that UPS thread is indeed very apropos to your specific non-contribution on this thread as well. Thanks for bringing that up for eveyone's benefit here. Maybe you should go erase all your posts on that thread too! |
Another long drivally post that I won't waste time reading. And again, adds nothing. Go change your car window will ya....
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| HogPilot wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | HogPilot wrote: | What are you taking about? You've been great entertainment!
Your lack of cogent response speaks volumes, so don't worry about trying another reply. You'll just continue to embarrass yourself. |
I believe that shoe is on your foot. Your speeches on RPTV are utterly comical. As I stated earlier, you have no idea of what you are talking about. Please continue...... |
More deflect, deny, and avoid from you. My points above are quite reasonable. If you had 1) knowledge of the projectors that are the subject of this thread, or 2) any knowledge of this supposed issue in said projectors, you would have divulged something - anything - a long time ago. Instead you spend your time whining and telling everyone else in this thread how little they know while presenting zero information yourself. What a joke. |
It was more like you spewing garbage about all this stuff you think you know of RPTV's and such. Which is nothing just like most other things you argue with so many on here about.
The repair shop called. Your car is ready...
When did you find time to get your picture taken?
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Nashou66
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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah mac, you're right about this just like you were right about the seasons of the earth being due to our orbital eccentricity rather than the tilt in our axis. Or about CMS's not being able to adjust a projector's promaries. Both as solid as your grammar and spelling  The deeper you dig, the more amusement I'm getting at your expense.
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| HogPilot wrote: | | Yeah mac, you're right about this just like you were right about the seasons of the earth being due to our orbital eccentricity rather than the tilt in our axis. Or about CMS's not being able to adjust a projector's promaries. Both as solid as your grammar and spelling The deeper you dig, the more amusement I'm getting at your expense. |
Primaries not promaries.
And he is actually right if you think about it. A CMS will change the Source signals and not the actual Projectors color abilities( at least with CRT or external CMS, not sure how a in house CMS on digital's work, but I assume they adjust the input signal).
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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Primaries not promaries.
And he is actually right if you think about it. A CMS will change the Source signals and not the actual Projectors color abilities( at least with CRT or external CMS, not sure how a in house CMS on digital's work, but I assume they adjust the input signal).
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Wow, six grammatical errors in a post where you correct someone else's grammar. Solid.
And wait...you're telling me that a CMS can't physically alter the primary light filters in a projector? No sh*t.  Mac tried the same backpedaling when he realized he was out of his element on that discussion.
A CMS absolutely can change the projected primaries, which is all that matters.
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Nashou66
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mr_ro_co
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | mr_ro_co wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | mr_ro_co wrote: | Elvis has left the building. I mean, Ace has left the sandbox, and he's taking all his toys, or rather, posts with him, raking up the sand after him, covering his tracks and all evidence of his non-contribution to this thread. Especially that recent rather long one. Not to worry, we didn't miss anything. I glanced over it - it was merely an unreadable bitch session.
... indeed. |
Boy, you just can't stand that fact that you lost in that UPS thread and keep trying to come back with something. I mean if anyone's posts here have provided absolutely "NOTHING" to this thread it's yours. I laugh at your attempts... |
Is that so? You mean the one where, like here, you added nothing whatsoever of value or actually responded in any helpful manner to the original information request? The one where others kept claiming that determining UPS battery runtime is by the "size" of the UPS? The one where I kept trying to correct this erroneous claim by patiently explaining that battery runtime is actually determined by sizing the energy capacity of the battery reservoir for supporting the real inverter draw from what's typically a derated figure based on its maximum dissipation while it supplies the load device in question? The one where you must have spent a lot of time searching high and low for dissipation curves on specific APC models so that you could make the case that a grossly underutilized (read, waste of money) UPS would indeed run slightly longer on a given battery bank than a smaller, fully utilized (read, optimized capacity) UPS would at its rated dissipation on the same battery bank?
As I tried my best to explain to you then, the problem with your silly little distraction is no one actually sizes UPS or its battery runtime capacity based on comparing dissipation curves between different sized UPS. No one. Because it's moronic in its wastefulness. There are real, big wasted infrastructure concerns such as "stranded power" that come from the high cost of the uselessly oversized feeder breakers, STS/ATS, transformers - really the entire distribution upstream of the UPS would then have to be way oversized and maintained for an ampacity requirement to service what would be a grossly oversized and underutilized UPS. You clearly have no appreciation for such concepts, and this is probably a function of the limits of your experience from being restricted to the domain of repairing consumer electronics.
What I told Curt then was exactly how you go about selecting a UPS and the needed battery runtime. You did not. Instead, you hijacked the thread and demanded that I admit that you were right about an inverter dissipation curve from an inverter at 50% being less than an inverter half its size at 100%. You are talking about that tread, right?
Referring to your big win on that UPS thread is indeed very apropos to your specific non-contribution on this thread as well. Thanks for bringing that up for eveyone's benefit here. Maybe you should go erase all your posts on that thread too! |
Another long drivally post that I won't waste time reading. And again, adds nothing. Go change your car window will ya.... |
No where near as long as the incoherent bitch session marathon you saved us all from on this thread. As far as you claiming not to "waste your time" reading my post... You do that all the time here. This is your infantile "can't be bothered with it" MO and is what you always resort to when you need to run away from discussions where you haven't gotten your way. You are chronically unhelpful, unthoughtful and regularly heap mean spirited arrogant disdain on those who don't respond exactly to your demands for information before you deign to help them. You hold admirably sturdy grudges, and your blacklist must be pretty long by now for those who have not submitted to your snide technical superiority.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I'm gone for a few hours and you 2 clowns are still flinging your crap. I haven't read any of your worthless dribble so I have no idea what your trying to push now. I wish I had the extra time to continue this sh*t fest. But I don't. You 2 are really pathetic and you act like brothers.
But, Hog and Mrroco, I have to now say thank you.
For some time now I have been kicking around a prospect that's available to me. I was talking to Mike Parker about it the other day and he is encouraging me to pursue it. The problem is it will take up all my time and I won't have any internet time on any forums I'm on. But after this last bout of wasted and worthless time consuming nothing with you 2 idiots, I spent the last few hours making that final decision.
So once I make this final post I will be closing down Curt Palme and begin my project. I'll leave my email link intact for now if anyone needs anything. But again, thanks for helping me make that decision.
So feel free to come back and fling some more of your idiotic sh*t. I won't be here to read it but I'm sure everyone else will enjoy. You can then both jerk yourselves off screaming your King of the Hill and know you got in the last word.
Mike, I'll be shooting you an email shortly.
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HogPilot
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Haha, two times in one thread you threaten you run off and never come back. It took you one post to disappoint me and start posting again last time, let's see how long this empty threat lasts!
And I love the double "I'm not going to waste any more time on you" posts...followed by more posts responding to me. You couldn't possibly be more confused - sh*t show indeed.
Meanwhile you still haven't presented any actual information about the the OP's question - just continued your tirade of whining like a 5 year old.
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mr_ro_co
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | Wow, I'm gone for a few hours and you 2 clowns are still flinging your crap. I haven't read any of your worthless dribble so I have no idea what your trying to push now. I wish I had the extra time to continue this sh*t fest. But I don't. You 2 are really pathetic and you act like brothers.
But, Hog and Mrroco, I have to now say thank you.
For some time now I have been kicking around a prospect that's available to me. I was talking to Mike Parker about it the other day and he is encouraging me to pursue it. The problem is it will take up all my time and I won't have any internet time on any forums I'm on. But after this last bout of wasted and worthless time consuming nothing with you 2 idiots, I spent the last few hours making that final decision.
So once I make this final post I will be closing down Curt Palme and begin my project. I'll leave my email link intact for now if anyone needs anything. But again, thanks for helping me make that decision.
So feel free to come back and fling some more of your idiotic sh*t. I won't be here to read it but I'm sure everyone else will enjoy. You can then both jerk yourselves off screaming your King of the Hill and know you got in the last word.
Mike, I'll be shooting you an email shortly. |
Name dropping - pathetic. All your helpfulness will be sorely missed. Idiotic sh*t? I'm sorry, did you or did you not contribute absolutely nothing of value to this thread or not? As is your usual form. And if I am part of the impetus to remove you from participating on this forum, I certainly thank you for that recognition and hope the door does hit you on the way out. Please, go make it big with your awesomely successful commercial venture and never return. You will not be missed.
Good riddance. Run along now, infant.
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I checked to see what the excitement in this otherwise simply-enough titled thread was. Boy...really?
All I know is that careful reading of Mac's technically-oriented posts over the small time (3 years?) I've been a member here HAVE resulted in me learning something more often than not. YES...his style, seemingly persnickety nature, and communication skills frequently combine in ways that require a lot of filtration. He does tend to come off as a bit arrogant or short with people. However, his CRT and electronics knowledge are surely real, even if his reasoning goes to extremes and even if he can be pedantic.
I dunno...but speaking for myself, I hope Mac is posting on this site again soon. We can all filter his thoughts and avoid/disagree with his opinions AND benefit from his input. I'd say the same to/about HogPilot and Mr Ro Co. Bottom line: It is a shame to lose active folks on the forum and I wonder about rejoicing so readily when someone/anyone leaves the site.
bests,
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