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JJSuperfly · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Okotoks

I've a Marquee 8500 with Moome 1080p Full-HD input card (V1) and have been struggling with HDCP over the past looooong while. My blu-ray player and ExpressVu STB are connected via OPPO HDMI switchbox to the Moome input HDMI card.

For normal HD satellite viewing I have no problems (other than too few decent shows to watch). For some HD movies (and all view on demand movies), however, I cannot get an image; only some zig/zag noise which I assume is HDCP. Previously, say more than a year or two ago this would happen very infreqently and would usually go away if I powered down the video chain and powered up (major PITA). Now? no success no matter what. I have pretty much the same problems with Blu-ray movies. Also, FWIW, I formerly had a Lumagen VisionHDQ which encountered similar (but not always the same) problems. Said Lumagen is DOA at the moment hence the switch to the switchbox. I had bought the Lumagen hoping i could simply hook up to it with HDMI and then run analog RGBHV to the PJ but alas, not permitted.

What can I do? I assume the older version of the Moome card may be the problem, (perhaps with a Codec or HDCP change from Bell) but me not so sure as I'm somewhat illiterate on HDCP compatability and other such electronic babble (oops, I meant to say wizardry).

All I want to do is watch movies at home (movies I frigging PAID FOR!!). I'll leave the digital copying and copyright theft to the Chinese gov't and financial thievery to the Canadian and other local governmenta and the ba$tards at Bell.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

What hz is the STB sending out for pay per view? Some send it at 24. make sure your sending 60hz.

Athanasios

JJSuperfly · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Okotoks

Not sure about the ExpressVu as the HDTV setup only lets you choose 720p, 1080i and lower. I did make the mistake of trying 24 fps on the BluRay player the other day...problem corrected and voila! still no BD movies...

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:28 am Post subject:

Can you see the BD player's startup screen when you first power it on, or the setup menus and such before you put a disc in? Then, does it go to hell once the disc is in?

Does it matter if the BD player or Bell box are cabled directly to the Moome card?

How long are your cables? Make us a little diagram for both sources, like:

Bell box > 6-foot HDMI cable > Oppo switcher > 6-foot HDMI cable > Moome

SC

JJSuperfly · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Okotoks

ooops, the Bluray player was set on Auto in regards to 24fps, I thought I had turned it off Embarassed

. Now working fine. I will try the Satellite box tomorrow evening.

As for the connections:

Bell box > 6-foot HDMI cable > Oppo switcher > 25-foot HDMI cable > Moome
The BluRay is also connected to the Oppo switcher with a 6-foot HDMI cable.
note: the 25 foot cable may be 28 or 30 foot long; hard to tell without pulling it from the ceiling and harder to remember...

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:04 am Post subject:

OK, cables look good.

I'm suspicious you have a signal/frequency issue... Maybe a resolution the 'Quee doesn't like. HDCP handshake problems more often than not result in a black screen.

You said, "For normal HD satellite viewing I have no problems (other than too few decent shows to watch). For some HD movies (and all view on demand movies), however, I cannot get an image; only some zig/zag noise which I assume is HDCP."

That's very telling to me. The ExpressVu is an HDMI source; I'd be very surprised if HDCP weren't on 100% of the time. If so, then there's some other reason that most channels work, but some of the movie and HD PPV channels don't work.

What resolution do you have the BD player configured to output?

SC

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Im concerned about the 30 foot HDMI cable. that is long! I wonder if the power supply for the Oppo is puttering out soon.

Athanasios

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:24 am Post subject:

Really Athanasios? Mine is a 25-footer. I'd suspect maybe that's the cause of my handshake issues, but it seems like everybody has a 25-30 foot cable to get over, up, over, and down to a projector from a rack. Monoprice has 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50-foot passive cables. What are people driving those with?

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Phoenixed · Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 514 Location: The mitten

I have a thirty foot monoprice cable with a staple through it. Works great.

JJSuperfly · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Okotoks

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject:

Must be one of those jitter- and skin-effect-reducing, signal-stabilzing, high-speed staples.

SC

Phoenixed · Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 514 Location: The mitten

JJSuperfly · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Okotoks