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ecrabb · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:18 am Post subject:

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:48 am Post subject:

Bahahaha, it was driving me nuts too, but wanted to see how many posts it would take for someone to step in and correct it.

Good thing Analog didn't correct it, who knows what it would say then. Very Happy

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:07 am Post subject:

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

speeling on an internet forum, who cares Laughing

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:58 am Post subject:

That was the British spelling of 'want' like Lloyd Laughing

**kal** · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject:

The missing capitalization of the "T" in the word "The" of "The Hobitt" was driving me nuts too... fixed. Wink

Kal

HogPilot · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:57 am Post subject:

I finally saw the movie last night in IMAX 3D HFR, and it was certainly an interesting experience. On the good side, it was definitely the best 3D experience I've seen to date - bright, never got blurry, no eye strain, and almost zero ghosting except for a couple very minor instances. The HFR also significantly reduced or eliminated any noticeable motion blur and panning artifacts.

That being said, overall I strongly disliked the "look" that the HFR gave to the movie. Most of the time I felt like I was watching a made-for-TV movie on the SyFy channel or people running around in costumes rather than a theatrical release in IMAX which takes place in an imaginary place. Yes, the HFR did a great job of eliminating many artifacts related to shooting in 24fps; however I would almost say that HFR makes it look "too real," which made it hard for me to suspend my disbelief. I know that some people strongly dislike 24fps artifacts, but I'm not one of them - in fact, I think they help make a movie more a believable piece of fantasy, rather than real people trying to convince you that you're watching fantasy. Just my personal opinion on the HFR thing.

dturco · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject:

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

well if they would have consulted with me first I would have told them that 36 frames per second is the perfect solution, DUH Laughing

I do have a problem sometimes with juddery motion, but anything that destroys the illusion of film , pulls you out of the movie, and puts you on the movie set with the director and crew is not desirable.

HogPilot · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject:

I found myself thinking about all the other advancements in movie-making and delivery technology aimed at making things more real and believable. Better SFX, higher resolutions, wider color gamuts, better CR, the list goes on - all of these things are viewed as desirable improvements. Yet higher frame-rates - which solves many problems and should fall into the same category - strangely seems to significantly detract rather than enhance the movie-going experience for many. I wonder why that is?

stridsvognen · Guest

I went to the cinema last night in Livera Uruguay.. To see the Hobbit 3D, quite sure not HFR.

I liked the movie.. think its ok.. Its my first 3D movie ever.. Well had to happen sooner or later. It was a ok experience to.. nothing wooohooo.. Black level was really bad, and the glasses were not perfect.. (used)

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

So if I've never seen any LOTR movies and not read the books, will I still get something out of this movie, considering it's a prequel?

dturco · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject:

thewolfman · Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden

I already know I will like HFR because 100 Hz TV sets always done it for me before. And I'm sure it will give me a stiffy almost instantly seeing this one also. Glad to see cinemas finally getting some high gain contrast material also..

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

**kal** · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject:

jbmeyer13 · Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Posts: 1135

I saw it last night in a standard 2-D format and it was the most visually astounding film I have even seen. I’m not referring to the CGI either, just the absolute clarity of the image. I’ll echo earlier comments about not wanting to feel like you are “on the set” and that’s one of the reasons I opted against seeing the film in the HFR format.

The early scene’s in Bilbo Baggins home really show the difference and visually set the tone for the remainder of the film. I have seen several films recently in state of the art 4K cinemas (including Skyfall) and nothing else comes even remotely close. IMO, the detail, contrast, color reproduction during non-CGI scenes were all new benchmarks. While I have to admit there was more CGI than I care for in a film, the character Gollum takes it to another level. The CGI artists were top notch in LOTR: Return of the King but now the level of realism is downright eerie.

Before I left to see this film I put on LOTR: The Two Towers from the BD box set I received for Christmas and feel that is one of the absolute best reference discs available. Peter Jackson clearly knows what he is doing, and in this day and age (along with Jim Cameron) has to be considered the pinnacle of film presentation.

As far as the story, it’s not in the same league as the LOTR films. The dwarves are just not as charismatic or well differentiated as the original cast. I have never read any of the books (though I consider the LOTR trilogy and the original Star Wars trilogy as my favorite films), therefore it will be interesting to see how the story evolves across the two remaining films.

Nightrider0614 · Joined: 24 Feb 2013 Posts: 27

It took me about the first 10 to 15 minutes of the movie for my eyes and head to adjust to the hfr processing. During that time the movie looked like a soap opera on my led tv. After I adjusted to the difference it was amazing. Our minds are not used to seeing that much background detail when watching things so it is a bit of an overload at first.

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635

Not sure but is this the same thing ? 3D gives me a headache....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BEZTMWW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BEZTMWW&linkCode=as2&tag=theelectricbrewery-20

Nightrider0614 · Joined: 24 Feb 2013 Posts: 27

There were 2 versions of 3d released in the theaters. I think that this one will be just the same old version that home units are accustomed to. Maybe there is going to be a directors cut that gas the high refresh rate version if our 3d equipment can handle it.

I wonder if this is how the theaters are going to try and keep people going there.