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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the input Craig. I have tried everything I can think of. I think I will try DVI to HDMI adapter next.

So if the HTPC is causing an issue will it also affect my cable box an BD also? even if they are not on?

Just so odd it started now. I have never had a problem but suppose I am just blaming the last thing I know I changed.

Still plugging away at it.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject:

Try disconnecting the HTPC from the chain and se if the BD player and Cable box work. then you can narrow it down.

Or try one thing at a time connected BD 1st, then add CB, the add HTPC. if it still acts up try to take the AVR out of the chain
to see what happens there.

maybe the AVR needs updating of the firmware.

???

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject:

CxTurbo wrote:
Thanks for the input Craig. I have tried everything I can think of. I think I will try DVI to HDMI adapter next.

So if the HTPC is causing an issue will it also affect my cable box an BD also? even if they are not on?

Just so odd it started now. I have never had a problem but suppose I am just blaming the last thing I know I changed.

Still plugging away at it.


I don't see why an HTPC that is not the current source would cause a problem. But like Tom says, try one source at a time connected to the Lumagen. You are grasping at straws at this point anyway Confused

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Grasping is correct. I have lost the battle this go around.

I do think my beloved Mini is the issue. Any source plugged directly in to the Moome = no problem. Any source plugged in to the AVR then into the Moome = No problem. Now any source plugged directly in to the Mini even without a connection to my Moome = restart issue.

8(

Kinda sucks. But, I think it has to be the Lumagen in the instance.

Thanks for the support guys.

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject:

Sounds like a bad mini. Lumagen will get you back up and running in no time!!

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Sounds like a bad mini. Lumagen will get you back up and running in no time!!

Nashou



No doubt about it, Jim and the folks at Lumagen are great. Pissed at myself I never bought an XE/XD sooner. I have not looked back ever since I bought the Mini as it is a POWER HOUSE!

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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject:

It sounds like you probably have a bad MINI power supply. Should be no problem.

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject:

Production 102612- Improved Pal (576i) deinterlacing for some sources. Added conversion capability for 1080p24 frame-packed 3D to 60/72 Hz frame-sequential 3D output. Added direct commands to disable HDCP on either output (press "menu 0981" do disable HDCP on output 1 or "menu 0982" for output 2). Note that for sources with HDCP, the video on the output is only viewable if HDCP is on.

www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=radiancexe_updates

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:11 am    Post subject:

CIR Engineering wrote:
Production 102612- Improved Pal (576i) deinterlacing for some sources. Added conversion capability for 1080p24 frame-packed 3D to 60/72 Hz frame-sequential 3D output. Added direct commands to disable HDCP on either output (press "menu 0981" do disable HDCP on output 1 or "menu 0982" for output 2). Note that for sources with HDCP, the video on the output is only viewable if HDCP is on.

www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=radiancexe_updates

craigr


Sweet!!!! I'll have to try that out now!!

They haven't updated my Post on the lumagen forum for this yet. I'll have to check it out.


Now if I can get them to make output 2 be able to have the source elected but not add any CMS or other changes made to output 1. This way I can use one Radiance as the switcher which would send the selected source to the second Lumagen i would have connected to output 2 of the first lumagen. Basically daisy chaining them.


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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject:

Just had time to try the update and right after power up it worked! I didn't even have to press the menu key sequence, Weird.

But Glad it works now.

Ome thing i notice Craig and wonder if you can help.

they no added some new menu to the output. Where you can select a specific input, its memory, its output res then it has the output paramenter, like which CMS, and other things . then i has for output 1 with Y or N and then output 2 with a Y or N.
So doe this mean each output can now have it own calibration? Or does it mean you can add the CMS and other parameters to output 2 as well or have output 2 be untouched with none of the changes made to output 1 carry over, so output 2 would be a " blank canvas" so to say of the original input ?

If yes then that is the loop through I wanted them to add so I can daisy chain the Lumagen's together and use Unit 1 as the source selector and the CMS etc for PJ one and then use the second Lumagen or "unit 2" for the CMS etc for PJ two!!

This will make it possible now to add back my SDI DVD player and LD player( even thought this has 2 mirrored composite outs).

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject:

Well after doing my 125 point calibration I decided to put on a movie. popped it in and now one side blacks out the picture even with the older firmware that worked before. Futzzzz!!!!!!

Why would one Radiance work fine and the other doesn't? I switched moome cards and still no luck.

I hate F%^&ing HDCP !!!!!!

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Just had time to try the update and right after power up it worked! I didn't even have to press the menu key sequence, Weird.

But Glad it works now.

Ome thing i notice Craig and wonder if you can help.

they no added some new menu to the output. Where you can select a specific input, its memory, its output res then it has the output paramenter, like which CMS, and other things . then i has for output 1 with Y or N and then output 2 with a Y or N.
So doe this mean each output can now have it own calibration? Or does it mean you can add the CMS and other parameters to output 2 as well or have output 2 be untouched with none of the changes made to output 1 carry over, so output 2 would be a " blank canvas" so to say of the original input ?

If yes then that is the loop through I wanted them to add so I can daisy chain the Lumagen's together and use Unit 1 as the source selector and the CMS etc for PJ one and then use the second Lumagen or "unit 2" for the CMS etc for PJ two!!

This will make it possible now to add back my SDI DVD player and LD player( even thought this has 2 mirrored composite outs).

Athansios

Glad it worked Tom Smile

The menu output section you are talking about is a new way to do setup and calibration on the Radiance processors. It makes assigning output timings, CMS, and themes much faster and easier. The Y/N for each output is only specifying if there will be video or not. Y means that there will be video on the output and N means no video/audio only. It is not the "loop through" that you wanted so if that's how you set everything up and now you have one blank projector, maybe things are more clear to you now Wink

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Craig. No I didn't do the loop through yet. The one blank PJ is because of the same issue as before. I will try tonight a Factory reset and see if that helps.

But looks like I'll still send my TV-One unit to Moome for trouble shooting its HDCP capabilities.

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject:

Ok How do I know if I did a factory reset if I can not see the menu screen to get to the save function?

I press Menu 0999 but then I suppose i have to press save. How can I do a factory set with out seeing the screen?

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject:

You shouldn't have to save after a factory reset, and if I recall the VP will actually power down after a FR. Press menu-0-9-9-9-ok... I think you may have missed the "ok."

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject:

CIR Engineering wrote:
You shouldn't have to save after a factory reset, and if I recall the VP will actually power down after a FR. Press menu-0-9-9-9-ok... I think you may have missed the "ok."

craigr


I tried that and it stayed powered on. I remember jim telling me of a "hard reset" method.

I can't seem to find that e-mail though.

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Craig Hard reset fixed the issue.

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject:

Interesting. The code I sent you worked, or was it something different?

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject:

I had to enter the service code first. Then enter the code you
Sent me. It clears the calibration according to the menu
But it worked for what ever reason.

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
I had to enter the service code first. Then enter the code you
Sent me. It clears the calibration according to the menu
But it worked for what ever reason.

Athanasios

Well, the code I sent you actually clears a lot of things, not just calibration and user settings...

Wink

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