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Tim in Phoenix
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: Lightning hit wipes out entire theater system! |
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Guys
Got a call this morning, the Marquee is toast along with several racks stuffed with scalers, amps, Crestron, satellite. Who has experience in fixing lightning-hit gear? Is it even worth trying?
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HaydnG90
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning hit wipes out entire theater system! |
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | Guys
Got a call this morning, the Marquee is toast along with several racks stuffed with scalers, amps, Crestron, satellite. Who has experience in fixing lightning-hit gear? Is it even worth trying?
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Was a surge protector eg Monster installed? I would assume the blown equipment would be covered by the SP manufacturers warranty protection.
Just checked the cover on my APC H15 unit and this is their warranty statement
"$750,000 lifetime connected equipment protection - For as long as you own the product, if your properly connected equipment is ever damaged by AC surge, including surges due to lightning, APC will replace our product and at our option repair or reimburse the fair market value of the connected equipment"
Worth looking into.
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning hit wipes out entire theater system! |
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | | Is it even worth trying? |
A buddy of mine just went through this. Lost a bunch of stuff in his house. He tried to get several pieces repaired, and all were unsuccessful.
So, if it was a direct hit, and he has replacement insurance, then in my opinion, it's probably not worth trying repairs. Some of the gear will likely have multiple failure points requiring a lot of troubleshooting and parts, so unless it's vintage gear and hard to replace and/or insurance won't cover it, then he's better off writing it all off and taking a check. That's my opinion, anyway.
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Tim in Phoenix
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There is insurance, I am just wondering if gear that is replaced might have any value.
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Phoenixed
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innof
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Dubble Damn! I am really sorry to hear this  The home adjacent to me sustained a direct hit about a month ago and it wiped out every electronic device in their home; And, the neighbour facing him lost a bunch of gear too (including 2 flat screen televisions). I was spared any collateral damage since everything in the home is plugged into surge protectors. Hopefully, insurance will cover any losses
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macgyver655
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I have repaired tons of hit electronics. It all depends on the extent of the damage per item.
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ecrabb
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | I have repaired tons of hit electronics. It all depends on the extent of the damage per item. |
Exactly. Some or all of it it could be easily repaired, or some or all of it could be a complete and utter basket case and not worth the money to ship.
It's like asking over a forum whether your car can be fixed if it was in an accident. Depends on whether it was a fender-bender or whether was sandwiched between two semis. 
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barclay66
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Exactly!
At the time when I was working at an electronics store we had the whole place filled with dead TV sets after a local thunderstorm. The individual defects depended on many factors: Brand and model, being on or off during the event, connected to cable TV or satellite dish etc.
Most had blown SMPS, dead tuners or inoperative MPUs. A real PITA were the sets made by Philips: You had to replace almost every part of the SMPS's primary side in order to get anything to work. And then You would find out that the model-specific MPU was dead and no longer supplied
In my opinion only an individual analysis of each device will help deciding if it's worth repairing. For sure I wouldn't use any board of one of these sets as spare part without thorough testing. On the other hand I wouldn't have any doubts when reusing parts like tubes and anything of the mechanical stuff.
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Jeremy112
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning hit wipes out entire theater system! |
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | Guys
Got a call this morning, the Marquee is toast along with several racks stuffed with scalers, amps, Crestron, satellite. Who has experience in fixing lightning-hit gear? Is it even worth trying?
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No, it is not worth repairing.
I used to have a Pioneer SX-1280 that was sitting in my dads basement for years, I asked him why he had not repaired it.
Long story short, it was damaged by lightning very shortly after being purchased, and though it was repaired, the FM tuner section of the receiver was useless. It worked, but the stations would drift, sometimes not come in, etc...
Aside from the tuner being messed up, it had a few other issues that were impossible to trace. The receiver would have needed a complete rebuilding to be back up to its normal spec.
Lightning damage is no fun, except when the insurance company gives you money for what mother nature killed off in your home... Even then, replacing what you have isn't everyones idea of upgrading 
Now... if this person wants to sell anything thats toast... Im sure they wouldnt have too much trouble doing so, (I myself wouldnt mind taking a shot at some of the fried components)
They are best off to go and see if they can get the stuff replaced via insurance though. The insurance company might even let them keep the stuff (so they could resell it for a little extra side cash too)
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Jeremy112
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | Guys
There is insurance, I am just wondering if gear that is replaced might have any value.
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Flew right over this post of yours Tim... The answer to this question is yes. no matter how it died, any electronic component WILL retain a value, no matter how low.
Even worthless CRT projector parts still have a value, to someone who wants them, and there is ALWAYS someone who wants something that someone else has, and are willing to pay something for it.
i'm a good example of such a person 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | I have repaired tons of hit electronics. It all depends on the extent of the damage per item. |
Ive done quite alot too, its amazing how many of them had an MOV just after a fuse and that was all that was killed.
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westom
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | | I am just wondering if gear that is replaced might have any value. |
Fixing is usually simple. A current used each damaged component as a connection to earth. The typically one damaged part is between an incoming wire and that outgoing connection. Finding and fixing it is easy. Finding someone who can do that is hard.
Sometimes a defective part means replacing everything on one board. So maybe it is not worth fixing.
More important is averting future failures. That means earthing before a destructive current can enter the building. Then even MOVs are not damaged by a surge.
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