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Zolzar
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I like the five gallon buckets.... I went real ghetto with the PG10
and set it up on cinder blocks.  Hey....at $1.50 a block I couldn't go wrong!
Maybe ill spray them black in the spring so it doesn't look so rediculous.
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overclkr
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In my defense, my wanker was plenty large before I considered getting an extension
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stefuel
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I'm going for a reduction. It's just to much to carry around on a daily basis.
Goddamn that waters cold.......and it's deep too. 
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mr_ro_co
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I've been rethinking going to a blend and instead doing a stack. Reasons are:
-One projector dies, I can still operate.
-3D capabilities
-Less hassle and upkeep
-Way less expensive
The main reason the blend is so appealing to me is its dramatically better phosphor utilization and ability to do 2.35:1 with native vertical rez.
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ecrabb
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Tough call, Steve. Pluses and minuses to both.
One other big difference is PJ location... Not sure about your room layout and seating, but the blend has a much shorter throw, so doesn't land the giant side-by-side stack of projectors right behind the sweet spot, and over the second row. Stack or blend projector location may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on whether you're doing two rows, how close you like to sit, etc.
SC
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| mr_ro_co wrote: | I've been rethinking going to a blend and instead doing a stack. Reasons are:
-One projector dies, I can still operate.
-3D capabilities
-Less hassle and upkeep
-Way less expensive
The main reason the blend is so appealing to me is its dramatically better phosphor utilization and ability to do 2.35:1 with native vertical rez.
Steve |
I think you made the right Choice. Blending is a bitch but the resolution and ease of the PJ's running it is a bug plus.
I tried running 1200 horizontal so 1056x1200 and it looked really good.
But unless your willing to calibrate, re calibrate, then re calibrate till your happy with what you got
a stack is the way to go. I might actually take the blend down when I lower the 8500's and convert them to
9500LC's. But first I want to try it with the LC's with AC its much more difficult.
Sorry Bob, I still might be able to get talked out of it.
Athanasios
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mr_ro_co
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| ecrabb wrote: | Tough call, Steve. Pluses and minuses to both.
One other big difference is PJ location... Not sure about your room layout and seating, but the blend has a much shorter throw, so doesn't land the giant side-by-side stack of projectors right behind the sweet spot, and over the second row. Stack or blend projector location may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on whether you're doing two rows, how close you like to sit, etc.
SC |
Good point - I think the stack has a better physical location.
Steve
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mr_ro_co
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | mr_ro_co wrote: | I've been rethinking going to a blend and instead doing a stack. Reasons are:
-One projector dies, I can still operate.
-3D capabilities
-Less hassle and upkeep
-Way less expensive
The main reason the blend is so appealing to me is its dramatically better phosphor utilization and ability to do 2.35:1 with native vertical rez.
Steve |
I think you made the right Choice. Blending is a bitch but the resolution and ease of the PJ's running it is a bug plus.
I tried running 1200 horizontal so 1056x1200 and it looked really good.
But unless your willing to calibrate, re calibrate, then re calibrate till your happy with what you got
a stack is the way to go. I might actually take the blend down when I lower the 8500's and convert them to
9500LC's. But first I want to try it with the LC's with AC its much more difficult.
Sorry Bob, I still might be able to get talked out of it.
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Right, you were saying the AC sets are hard to blend due to halo, right?
There's no doubt that the blend is superior. I'm just not sure I want to deal with its needs and the prohibitive cost.
Steve
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Spanky Ham
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I would think your biggest problem with a blend is ongoing maintenance. I know Craig mentioned that he advises against blending with his clients. My guess is that it would be a lot of time to set up and significant time to keep them running smooth.
It is definitely a tough choice, but I would probably stack. Of course, I would probably go with a Torus for high brightness. 
Edit - seems like Nash agrees.
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Nashou66
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | I would think your biggest problem with a blend is ongoing maintenance. I know Craig mentioned that he advises against blending with his clients. My guess is that it would be a lot of time to set up and significant time to keep them running smooth.
It is definitely a tough choice, but I would probably stack. Of course, I would probably go with a Torus for high brightness.
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Ouu A stacked 13 foot torus screen!!!
Didn't someone have a two sets of those HFR900 lenses for sale?
Nashou
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mr_ro_co
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | I would think your biggest problem with a blend is ongoing maintenance. I know Craig mentioned that he advises against blending with his clients. My guess is that it would be a lot of time to set up and significant time to keep them running smooth.
It is definitely a tough choice, but I would probably stack. Of course, I would probably go with a Torus for high brightness.
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Craig has indicated the same thing to me. I don't know... I could start easy enough with the stack and then go to a blend down the road if so inclined to give it a whirl. It would require a location and lens change and a bunch more money for the processor(s), but I might still try it at some point. First things first.
A true torus or just curved? I wish I could go that route but the new room won't accommodate a fixed screen.
Steve
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jbmeyer13
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Once you stack, you won't switch to a blend. Getting a stack set up properly is enough of a PITA and after all that I doubt you are going to want to re-position the PJ's, spend more $$$$ and start from scratch. I believe Craig has set up blends before and he says you'll always see the blend zone. Whether that will bother you is another issue all together, guys like Bob and Tim don't mind it but you might find it really irritating. Maybe you should take a trip to Phoenix and see Tim's set up before you make your final decision.
One benefit of a blend is that you could theoretically run 4K material.
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Nashou66
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | Once you stack, you won't switch to a blend. Getting a stack set up properly is enough of a PITA and after all that I doubt you are going to want to re-position the PJ's, spend more $$$$ and start from scratch. I believe Craig has set up blends before and he says you'll always see the blend zone. Whether that will bother you is another issue all together, guys like Bob and Tim don't mind it but you might find it really irritating. Maybe you should take a trip to Phoenix and see Tim's set up before you make your final decision.
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Not true. I set up my 8500 stack in less than an hour. Blend 2 years and counting.
nashou
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Tim in Phoenix
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Harrrrrrr
You guys are no fun
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Nashou66
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Here is a pic of the Twin Longbows , and I just put in the 9500LC from that Gov liquidation Retro unit I went to get for Bruce.
I want to see what the difference in Distance will be compared to the 8500AC's.
I also want to see what the image size will be on the tube face if I leave the mounting location the same.
Its not set up yet just put it in there. I might move the G90 in there too!! Split the blenders out put
to the floor location PJ's and have a quad stack blend hybrid!!!
nashou
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AnalogRocks
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I have got to get down there to see this.
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ElTopo
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Is there a calc how far blended twins are away from each other ?
Or is it just trying till it matches ?
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Tim in Phoenix
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| ElTopo wrote: | Is there a calc how far blended twins are away from each other ?
Or is it just trying till it matches ?
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It depends on your screen aspect ratio, and the amount of overlap selected. Twenty percent overlap works good for 16:9 while 2.35 may indicate ten percent overlap.
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ElTopo
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Thx Tim.
Any pros or cons between a 10%/20% overlap ?
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