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HD 144 moving on their own in an XG

 
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: HD 144 moving on their own in an XG

Who has ever had this before??

What are those black metal pieces under the adjustment wingnut for?

Since ive had this RUNCO DTV 991 up the convergence has been flawless on the blue and green, nothing there really moves. But the red has been slowly over a number of weeks getting to the point where it needs a very minor touch up. When i refocused it mechanically, i had to move all the settings for the red again, which ended up pretty much where they were when i last focused it and set it all up...

I was just looking at the all white test pattern to look for the moving bars as seen in another recent thread ( yes mine has them on that pattern, not on any one tube, you need 2 tubes on or no lines... ) and i noticed the red looked abit soft, the green is still razor sharp, and the blue would be too if the blue defocus was turned off ( as in its mechanically perfect )

My 9PG doesnt have these metal pieces on the lenses, and never had any drift issues either ( HD 6 lenses )

When setting the mechanical focus, i use the short focusing binoculars and with the electronic focus way off, looking at the screen center til i see the grain snap into view.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject:

The pg xtra also have those metal plates. I'm not sure, but the only purpose I can imagine for them is x-ray cancellation, like the lead shield in Electrohomes.
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject:

Yeah i know, ive seen them on another machine that has HD 145s on it. They are gone now, i took them off.
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Jeremy112



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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: HD 144 moving on their own in an XG

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Who has ever had this before??

What are those black metal pieces under the adjustment wingnut for?

Since ive had this RUNCO DTV 991 up the convergence has been flawless on the blue and green, nothing there really moves. But the red has been slowly over a number of weeks getting to the point where it needs a very minor touch up. When i refocused it mechanically, i had to move all the settings for the red again, which ended up pretty much where they were when i last focused it and set it all up...

I was just looking at the all white test pattern to look for the moving bars as seen in another recent thread ( yes mine has them on that pattern, not on any one tube, you need 2 tubes on or no lines... ) and i noticed the red looked abit soft, the green is still razor sharp, and the blue would be too if the blue defocus was turned off ( as in its mechanically perfect )

My 9PG doesnt have these metal pieces on the lenses, and never had any drift issues either ( HD 6 lenses )

When setting the mechanical focus, i use the short focusing binoculars and with the electronic focus way off, looking at the screen center til i see the grain snap into view.


My XG1100 exhibits this issue as well Case, hence why I want to do a full restoration on it. It IS 15 years old, and no one seems to really care about the electronics of these units until it takes something out and makes the projector inoperable or intolerable to use.

I have to do touch ups every weekend, just to keep the image looking the way it should, thats the nature of used electronics. I would imagine that not every projector will have these issues, surely your old one probably didn't, or maybe it had a few very minor problems which eventually drove you to the XG...

The subconcious can do some amazing things Wink

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digitalayon



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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject:

screws turn clock-wise to tighten!!!
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject:

Jeremy, the PG has zero issues and is still perfectly good, no drift ever. I havent touched it up at all since it went up in its new spot.

My XG doesnt have an issue with electronics, it was the red lens moving that caused the need for continual adjustment. Green and blue never moved, was always red, and over a few weeks the red image would get smaller to the point where id have to move the red linearity and amplitude again. As soon as i corrected the mechanical focus again, the red image was larger.

Digitalayon, there are metal plates sitting there that seem to cause movement. I took them all off now so it shouldnt move again.
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:25 am    Post subject:

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HD 144 moving on their own in an XG


They must be haunted

Damned poltergeist Laughing

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:10 am    Post subject:

They could be mate yeah, although ive never seen or felt the presence of spirits here, other that scotch and irish whiskey...
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
They could be mate yeah, although ive never seen or felt the presence of spirits here, other that scotch and irish whiskey...


Yeah mines haunted by Captain Morgan's spirits. Laughing

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Phoenixed



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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject:

Sailor Jerry is a much better spirit.
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject:

Yeah? Well mine have all been co-calibrated by John Jameson & the Chivas Brothers, although at one point in thier absence i had William Grant and his sons passing the screw drivers along with a delegation of Teachers all pitch in to lend a somewhat steady hand. Johnnie Walker and Mr Haig were more interested in just watching movies and smoking cuban cigars...
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject:

Well nothing has moved even a millimeter since i removed those metal plates... Solid as a rock.
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Phoenixed



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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject:

Forgot the other two wiseman - Jack Daniels and Jose Cuervo. Never hurts include someone's Old Grand Dad and for when things get real bad call Jim Beam.
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject:

They arent really welcome here til they can bring a decent drink with them.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject:

Reminds me of one of my favorite comedy bits ever...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0AJPqKybs

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:45 am    Post subject:

Haha!!
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