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[janzy]

About 2 months ago I got a 6pg xtra and a plus unit for $50!
Then, last week I got an XL 135lc and a Vision HDP scaler for $550.
The tubes on the xtra and the 135 are in great shape, the plus unit has a little wear, but not too bad.
Now I'm going tonight to pick up a G70 for $50, supposed to be in excellent condition.
When it rains it pours.
Between the 135 and the G70 I need some opinions as to which I should keep.
BTW, my wife is about to shoot me!

[HaydnG90]

Tough call. All things being equal I think the performance will be pretty similar. It may come down to which OS you feel more comfortable using.

[ecrabb]

Chevy or Ford?

You'll just have to get the G70 and see what the tubes look like because I think it will probably come down to tube condition. That and like Haydn said, which you're more comfortable with.

Seems like the XG LC and G70 are very, very similar machines from my reading over the years. About the only significant difference I'm aware of is that the G70 will display a native 1080p picture pretty well with no folding and minimal raster echo on the left side. I think you'll need the processor to display 1080p on the XG. But, you have one, so...

I think it'll be all about the tube condition and which machine you're just more comfortable with. Set them both up and play and see which you like!

What a fun time. When I was first getting into CRT, it was the old ES machines like 12xx's that were raining cheap. Now, it's the nice 8" EM/LC machines! I hate to say it, but I suspect it will be G90's and 9500's that will be free/cheap a few years from now. I know they have a following and are more desirable, but so were machines like G70's and XG LC's.

SC

[HaydnG90]

[ecrabb]

[janzy]

what's driving my wife crazy is the fact that we have a dedicated roon in the basement with a cih, lcd system already.
Years ago I started with EH 4500, Sony 1252, EH8500 and always ended up with worn tubes when I bought these used and couldn't reall afford to swap tubes.
I then went over to dlp's and lcd projectors and have been really happy, but missed playing around with a crt, thus the move back to them. I have the space in my basement for the huge crt and figure I might make this a crt 3d room.

[mc86]

Man o man are you having fun! Now where is that "hoarder" thread....That said, CRT 3D is a whole 'nother beast, right? I mean to get the brightness don't folks run at fast rates and then get into green ghosting? You might have challenges on that front as I doubt 8" fast green phosphor tubes are extant...I dunno.

I think a stacked setup in which the two machines take turns displaying the R and L eye frames would be neat. And I'd bet color calibration differences between the two eyes wouldn't be so noticeable...plus if one only did 3D there would be no need for the two PJs to be co-converged. Of course, one would need a dedicated way of splitting such a signal and having it all timed correctly. Anyway, if this could work, the PJs wouldn't need to be matched-sets...

Matt

[CIR Engineering]

All things being equal, I would probably be partial to the NEC 135LC. The G70 has better build quality, but may actually be less reliable. The G70 has better lens flapping focus, but the NEC will have much better bandwidth. The G70 might be able to put out a brighter image, but at the expense of frying the tubes sooner.

I have setup 3D on several NEC machines now and they look shockingly good. I was really pessimistic on the first one, but the client really was wanting to try 3D. I told him straight up that I didn't think it would come out well, but he agreed not to hold me responsible if the image wasn’t bright enough. Boy, we were both thrilled with the outcome, and like I said I have set up a couple more since. For whatever reason, the NECs seem to ghost less than the G90s on 3D. Image is surprisingly bright as well with 3D.

You can swap tubes between the G70 and NEC, but of course you will have to unglue the NEC tubes from the housings. I have never done this in an LC unit before, but the AC units are a real nightmare. I would think the LCs would be easier... G70 tubes are SUPER easy to take apart though.

craigr

[CasetheCorvetteman]

[ecrabb]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

[janzy]

Going this morning (Sunday) to pick up the G70. I'll let you guys know what kind of shape the tubes really are in.
This makes 2 6pg's, 135lc and the G70 in my basement along with my Panasonic AE4000.
Looks like I'll be parting some of these out soon.

[CIR Engineering]

The 6PG projectors will throw a nice 1080i image, but they are not worth any money; parts or in whole. Unless you have the color corrected lenses.

craigr

[janzy]

Parting out a G70, the only tube available is the red one.
The other 2 have considerable wear.

[janzy]

Craigr, the tubes in the 6pg xtra must be worth something, they show very little wear on the green and no visible wear on the blue and red.
I hate to part them, but I can't even give them away

[janzy]

The tubes in the G70 suck except for the red, everything else is ok.

[Spanky Ham]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Aussie AL might be interested in some PG XTRA parts and tubes if the prices are right, he has a working 9PG XTRA with roasted tubes... Ill send him a message on the phone...

[gjaky]

[janzy]

The 6pg plus comes with color corrected hd-144 lens and the 6pg xtra has color corrected hd-145's.
They worth anything?