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holdenkicks
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: BG808s - Cannot get DVDs to right aspect ratio, pls help |
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Hi guys and girls
Thanks so much for all of your help in the past. Tonight I tried to set up my BG808s for watching DVD's thru my PS3 (HDMI into a HDMI fury into RGBHV).
The symptom is that the image within the raster is much to narrow and so everything looks like a 16:9 image squashed into a 4:3 box. The height is right, but there are big fat black vertical bars down the left and right sides of the image.
Problem is, increasing the horizontal width control in the geometry settings pushes the raster right off the tube face edges, and I cannot see any controls to make the image bigger within the raster itself - am I missing something?
I try to use 720p as much as possible and have my 808s set up for my wii (wii2HDMI adaptor), HTPC (1280x720, HDMI) and my PS3's games/home menu are on 720p but the PS3 reverts to a lower resolution whenever I play a DVD and I cant see any settings on it that force it to output DVD's at 720p.
On any source that is 720p, the image uses up most of the raster area and so I dont have this same problem. Any advice is appreciated!
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Pushing the raster over the tube faces isnt an issue, as long as the image is not off the edge of the tubes. If you have the brightness and contrast set right, the back raster shouldnt be visible on the tube face anyway. Then there is blanking, and that will stop anything from being displayed off the edge anyway.
Why are you using a PS3 as a DVD and Bluray player? Buy a REAL one. The Panasonic i have is only about $190 or so, better picture, better sound, and it WILL output DVDs at what ever res you set it to. Will also do 3D if you ever want to ( non 3D version is even cheaper ). The PS3 is a kid's toy, its not a Bluray player.
I set mine to 1080i and leave it there, looks perfectly good, DVDs come out at almost exactly the same size with only a very slight adjustment to be made to be spot on. Ive also tried it on 720p and it was the same, spot on.
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holdenkicks
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: |
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hi, thanks for your advice. I had wondered before whether it was just the image shooting off the tube face or the raster aswell that I needed to be concerned about.
I dont mean to be rude but I dont want to take any risks - can anyone back up what cass said about it being OK to run the raster off the edge of the tube face?
With using the PS3, its mainly because im on a budget. I cant justify spending money to get a slight upgrade and I dont have any 3d capable displays (3D is something im happy to save for the cinema). If I can get the ps3 output to be satisfactory then Ill use that.
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The ps3 is NOT a "toy" and it works most excellently as a DVD/BD player. There are a couple of drawbacks, but there are also some great advantages: It's very fast, always updated, and plays every single BD without exception. I've been using a ps3 for BD/DVD playback for probably four years, and it's a great machine as long as you're aware of a couple of limitations and those limitations don't impact you.
You should be able to set scaling to address the issued you're seeing.
Settings > Video Settings > BD / DVD Upscaler
Try setting that to "Normal" or "Full Screen * 2".
Also, I'd try 1080i for BD and scaled DVD. When I had my 1271, I always much appreciated the increased spatial resolution of 1080i, and the HD-8 lenses masked the scan lines. Your machine may be sharper than mine was, though.
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Why are you using a PS3 as a DVD and Bluray player? Buy a REAL one. The Panasonic i have is only about $190 or so, better picture, better sound, and it WILL output DVDs at what ever res you set it to. Will also do 3D if you ever want to ( non 3D version is even cheaper ). The PS3 is a kid's toy, its not a Bluray player. |
Oh, and one more thing... Who says the Panasonic you have makes a better picture and better sound? I've never seen anything but one person's anecdotal evidence that a standalone player outputs better sound or picture than a PS3.
The PS3 also outputs 3D... At no additional cost.
There are only two major disadvantages to the PS3... First, the older fat PS3 like I have won't bitstream advanced audio - it's decoded and sent PCM. The other thing that's less than ideal with a CRT is that the PS3 likes to toggle the video interface a lot depending on source content, so you'll have a few flickers and such between FBI warnings, trailers, menu, and movie. It's not much of a problem at all with the HD Fury, but it's downright obnoxious with the Moome card I tested.
Other than those two issues, the PS3 is fast and excellent.
If you're into console gaming, it's also excellent for that, of course.
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| holdenkicks wrote: | | I dont mean to be rude but I dont want to take any risks - can anyone back up what cass said about it being OK to run the raster off the edge of the tube face? |
I'll back up what CorvetteMan said about the rasters. The raster itself isn't a problem.
However, you probably still shouldn't do it if you don't want to take any risks. It depends on what source you're driving things with, but if you have an active raster that runs off the tube face, even if you don't normally fill the raster with active image, it's possible you could (accidentally, etc.). If left too long, the results would be unfortunate. So you'll have to give that aspect some consideration.
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sorry steve, you can hug your sony game player all you want but the PS3 stands for Pile-o-sh*t cubed .  | ecrabb wrote: | | There are only two major disadvantages to the PS3... First, the older fat PS3 like I have won't bitstream advanced audio - it's decoded and sent PCM. The other thing that's less than ideal with a CRT is that the PS3 likes to toggle the video interface a lot depending on source content, so you'll have a few flickers and such between FBI warnings, trailers, menu, and movie. It's not much of a problem at all with the HD Fury, but it's downright obnoxious with the Moome card I tested.SC |
really is that all  So it won't process audio properly and it will toggle to whatever resolution it feels like puking out at the moment but otherwise it's fine  You gotta be joking. Even a cheap HT, one that isn't a projector and a bed-sheet in a garage , costs thousands of friggin dollars, why skimp 2 hundred bucks on a proper player. Especially when any new AVR has 3 or 4 HDMI ports? I don't understand your "logic" at all.
| ecrabb wrote: | If you're into console gaming, it's also only excellent for that, of course. |
there, fixed it fo ya.
I've set up 2 HT locally with PS3's, in both cases it was either "what I have" or more recently the guy was a gamer. The image is inferior even to a HD cable broadcast which you can switch back and forth between at the same resolution of 720P or 1080i.
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ecrabb
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| draganm wrote: | | sorry steve, you can hug your sony game player all you want but the PS3 stands for Pile-o-sh*t cubed . |
Well, you can have your opinion. I think it's a pretty decent, versatile, flexible, piece of hardware. Is it an Oppo? No, but didn't claim it is. Neither does it cost $500 like a significantly better player does.
| draganm wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | | There are only two major disadvantages to the PS3... First, the older fat PS3 like I have won't bitstream advanced audio - it's decoded and sent PCM. The other thing that's less than ideal with a CRT is that the PS3 likes to toggle the video interface a lot depending on source content, so you'll have a few flickers and such between FBI warnings, trailers, menu, and movie. It's not much of a problem at all with the HD Fury, but it's downright obnoxious with the Moome card I tested.SC |
really is that all So it won't process audio properly and it will toggle to whatever resolution it feels like puking out at the moment but otherwise it's fine You gotta be joking. Even a cheap HT, one that isn't a projector and a bed-sheet in a garage , costs thousands of friggin dollars, why skimp 2 hundred bucks on a proper player. Especially when any new AVR has 3 or 4 HDMI ports? I don't understand your "logic" at all. |
Who said it "didn't process audio properly"? All I said is that the fat PS3 - you know, the one that hasn't been sold for the last 2 years - wouldn't bitstream advanced audio. Instead, the fat PS3 decodes and sends as PCM over HDMI.... WHICH THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING. Hell, half the people here aren't even using a processor or AVR with advanced audio and are decoding the audio in their BD players and sending BD audio to their older AVR's or processors via ANALOG, and you're giving me sh*t for decoding and sending high-res PCM? WTF?
Regardless, the issue is resolved with the newer PS3 "slim" model. It bitstreams.
And I didn't say it "puked out whatever resolution it wants at the moment"... Depending on the source content (SD "behind the scenes" clips on BD for instance, it might output 480p, and it does flicker between menu and content occasionally, but that has as much to do with the HDMI/analog converters we use as it does with the PS3. It never, and mean never, ever, hiccups during a move, the trailers, etc.
Why skimp two hundred bucks? Because some of us already HAVE a good player in the PS3. Personally, unless you're making a significant upgrade to an Oppo, I see no reason to WASTE $200 on some cheap Panny, LG, or Samsung player that IS QUANTITATIVELY NO BETTER THAN A PS3 and probably cost all of $50 to manufacture.
| draganm wrote: | | I've set up 2 HT locally with PS3's, in both cases it was either "what I have" or more recently the guy was a gamer. The image is inferior even to a HD cable broadcast which you can switch back and forth between at the same resolution of 720P or 1080i. |
The image from the PS3 was inferior to a cable broadcast? Either you had no clue how to set up the PS3 properly, or you're completely full of sh*t! What, did you have it hooked up via component? Perhaps since you obviously have some sort of personal bias against the PS3, you've never taken the 20 minutes it would have take on this forum to find the correct configuration for optimal BD playback for CRT.
FYI, I've been running a PS3 in my theater at 1080p for 4 or 5 years now; the last 3-4 on my fully tweaked and CALIBRATED G70. The BD picture from the PS3 is demonstrably superior to any cable or satellite image, and was as close to resolving full 1080p as is possible with a G70 and my setup skills (good, but not Craig Rounds or Ken Whitcomb, obviously). I've been to CEDIA many times, and seen many high-performance home theaters, AND I'm a video guy, so I know what I'm looking at. I've looked at hundreds of test patterns in my own theater on my own projector, including Video Essentials and the Spears & Munsil discs, and it's clear the PS3 is outputting full resolution and excellent color.
So, I'm not sure what you did wrong, or why you're so anti-PS3, but spare us the bull****, will you?
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draganm
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| ecrabb wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | I've set up 2 HT locally with PS3's, in both cases it was either "what I have" or more recently the guy was a gamer. The image is inferior even to a HD cable broadcast which you can switch back and forth between at the same resolution of 720P or 1080i. |
The image from the PS3 was inferior to a cable broadcast? Either you had no clue how to set up the PS3 properly, or you're completely full of sh*t! What, did you have it hooked up via component? Perhaps since you obviously have some sort of personal bias against the PS3, you've never taken the 20 minutes it would have take on this forum to find the correct configuration for optimal BD playback for CRT.SC |
We hooked up everything with HDMI direct to a brandf new MAratnz receiver in HDMI pass-though mode, no processing.
I didn't take the time to set it optimally? Are you joking? The menu's and user interface looked like something designed by a committee of school children for marketing to Chimpanzee's.
I'm glad you think it's the bomb, but judging by my friends reaction when I suggested areal; BD player, I think it's the addiction talking when you say how great it is. IT's great for getting your Fix, and burning your tubes, I'll grant you that much.
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ecrabb
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| draganm wrote: | We hooked up everything with HDMI direct to a brandf new MAratnz receiver in HDMI pass-though mode, no processing.
I didn't take the time to set it optimally? Are you joking? The menu's and user interface looked like something designed by a committee of school children for marketing to Chimpanzee's.
I'm glad you think it's the bomb, but judging by my friends reaction when I suggested areal; BD player, I think it's the addiction talking when you say how great it is. IT's great for getting your Fix, and burning your tubes, I'll grant you that much. |
Can you read, Dragan? Where have I said the PS3 is the bomb? Where have I said it's awesome or to die for? Answer: I haven't.
CasetheCorvetteman said the PS3 was a kid's toy, implying that his Panny was standalone was much better. I simply explained that there was nothing particularly disadvantageous as long as you knew about a couple of the limitations (which only matter in certain scenarios, and not to most).
Then, you jumped in, claimed it was "Pile-o-sh*t cubed", that the picture quality was inferior, and that the UI looks like it was designed by schoolchildren. Now, I'm not sure what background you have to critique UI design, but I'm actually a trained designer and in my expert opinion, I think the XMB 'cross-media bar' is actually pretty decent. But, I'm sure you know more than me about UI design, too.
Anyway, I simply disagreed that the PS3 was junk or inferior. In my opinion, it's a decent player, and there's very little wrong with it. It's very versatile and it offers a lot for the money - especially if you like to game.
So, unless you can show I'm wrong instead of making more baseless claims, it's all bull**** to me.
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I don't believe I'm agreeing with Steve but yes the PS3 is a great all around player.
Drag's, yes the interface looks somewhat cheesy but once you get the hang of it, it's not hard to navigate.
The picture quality is on par with my 2 stand alone bluray players and it's much faster in loading a bluray.
Plus it can do all sorts of things a stand alone can't and play games.
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| VideoGrabber wrote: | | holdenkicks wrote: | | I dont mean to be rude but I dont want to take any risks - can anyone back up what cass said about it being OK to run the raster off the edge of the tube face? |
I'll back up what CorvetteMan said about the rasters. The raster itself isn't a problem.
However, you probably still shouldn't do it if you don't want to take any risks. It depends on what source you're driving things with, but if you have an active raster that runs off the tube face, even if you don't normally fill the raster with active image, it's possible you could (accidentally, etc.). If left too long, the results would be unfortunate. So you'll have to give that aspect some consideration. |
Cheers mate, and Holden man, i wouldnt give you a bum steer, but i certainly dont think its rude of you to ask for more opinions, its your projector after all!!  . The blanking will prevent the raster from having any energy off the edge of the tube face if it does go over. Its only the image that is bright enough or has enough energy to do any tube damage, and youll see when you set it up that the image should fill the pre-exsisting wear pattern on your tube faces, cause it was the image that did the wear, not the raster.
| ecrabb wrote: | The ps3 is NOT a "toy" and it works most excellently as a DVD/BD player.
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Youre entitled to your opinion!!
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Oh, and one more thing... Who says the Panasonic you have makes a better picture and better sound? I've never seen anything but one person's anecdotal evidence that a standalone player outputs better sound or picture than a PS3.
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My Panasonic IS better than a PS3. In every way. Not a matter of opinion, its a plain and simple FACT. Like it or not. Its designed for the sole purpose of playing Blurays and DVDs... There is absolutely no question it is better at that task.
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The PS3 also outputs 3D...
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At the expense of 7.1ch audio... but i want all 8 of them, cause there IS a difference!! Major sacrifice...
| ecrabb wrote: | | At no additional cost.SC |
Say what? Since when? Think you better look into this abit more...
Panasonic 3D Bluray player: $190 AUD 4 months ago... Probably less now too... And that is one of the more expensive models...
PS3 160gig: $348 AUD right now... Even the cheapest used 80gig console is $189 AUD...
Before you comment on the AUD part, the thread starter is Australian.
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There are only two major disadvantages to the PS3...
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Only 2?? Well thats still 2 more my Panasonic standalone...
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... First, the older fat PS3 like I have won't bitstream advanced audio - it's decoded and sent PCM. The other thing that's less than ideal with a CRT is that the PS3 likes to toggle the video interface a lot depending on source content, so you'll have a few flickers and such between FBI warnings, trailers, menu, and movie. It's not much of a problem at all with the HD Fury, but it's downright obnoxious with the Moome card I tested.
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So its not as good as my Panasonic youre saying? That is what i said that started all this!!
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Other than those two issues, the PS3 is fast and excellent.
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So if you bought a new car, and instead of a passenger seat they put in a milk crate, and when you started it, it would do all kinds of crazy things you couldnt control, but it went fast and excellent once it was finally going, youd be ok with that sacrifice?? Even though it cost you almost twice as much??
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If you're into console gaming, it's also excellent for that, of course.
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This is where it really IS a kid's toy, its basically a very underpowered PC with no provision for future upgrade. When i play console games, i play MAN'S consoles... Sega Mega Drive... Super NES... NEO-GEO... Consoles that defined gaming... If i want to play the junk you get on PS3, ill buy the cheaper and vastly superior PC version!!
P.S. Dont stress Crabb Its all just friendly banter
| AnalogRocks wrote: | I don't believe I'm agreeing with Steve but yes the PS3 is a great all around player.
Drag's, yes the interface looks somewhat cheesy but once you get the hang of it, it's not hard to navigate.
The picture quality is on par with my 2 stand alone bluray players and it's much faster in loading a bluray.
Plus it can do all sorts of things a stand alone can't and play games. |
Jeremy i agree for the most here, but the Panasonic i have loads Blurays about as quick as a PS3. When watching DVDs, the picture from the Panasonic is considerably better than the PS3. The stand alone cant play games, but its almost half the price and does the job of movie playing better, and even a pretty basic PC will do the job of gaming better than a PS3.
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Thanks again for your help. Lols at the argument about sources. I bought the ps3 primarily to play racing games because I think the graphics are quite good and it has the racing games i want to play. It was also cheaper than getting a gamer pc and wont need upgrading any time soon like computers do. I used to be a pc gamer but given how little time I have to game these days I can't justify the expense and effort to build a gamer pc. I only have a 5 speaker system so 7.1 doesn't matter to me. One thing that does matter is that I have already used up the 4 hdmi ports on my switch and do don't have room for a separate bd player. Also re pricing, using the ps3 as a bd player is cheaper in my case because I would have bought a ps3 either way.
Fwiw I have a 160gb slim ps3
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You need to learn to build your own PCs Holden man, youd be amazed how cheap it can be, and its WAY beyond modern console gaming
| holdenkicks wrote: | | Lols at the argument about sources. |
Its a good laugh sometimes I never take it too seriously, different things suit different people for different reasons and always will!!
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | You need to learn to build your own PCs Holden man, youd be amazed how cheap it can be, and its WAY beyond modern console gaming
| holdenkicks wrote: | | Lols at the argument about sources. |
Its a good laugh sometimes I never take it too seriously, different things suit different people for different reasons and always will!! |
Ive been building my own pc's since I was 14  Used to overclock the crap out of them too and loved it. Between 2002 to 2007 I had a Duron 950 @ 1.2Ghz, Athlon XP 1.33 @ 1.66Ghz, athlon XP mobile @ 2.2Ghz and athlon 64 X2 3600+ 1.8Ghz @ 2.7Ghz, all on air cooling.
Im aware that I could probably build a semi decent gamer for about $500 but then even that wouldn't be "current" for as long as the ps3 and still costs more, and wouldnt fit in the little shelf that I sit my PS3 on. I run a C2D laptop these days as my main system that I bought for about $300 second hand (its an HP 8510p business machine with a nice 1680x1050 screen).
EDiT: these days I spend a lot of my money on cars, especially my WB statesman caprice. Cars have taken over computers as my main expensive hobby.
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Oh yeah, well sh** mate you shouldnt have to upgrade that often then!! But if you were buying bloody Durons i spose!! I had a 3200 Barton core Athlon XP up to 2.52 GHz with one of those coolermaster copper heatsinks and a centrifugal type fan on it, which blew air into the middle of the heatsink instead of the edges... Much better idea.. Got a few 2500 Bartons thinking they were actually 3200 Bartons by changing the FSB to 400Mhz... Was all too easy!!
I dont overclock any more though, i have no need for the power i have, so i leave it running at stock!!
The Statesman would drink abit wouldnt it? But then youre never late in a 308... Or did you replace that?? I used to be into cars abit when i had the Corvettes, but if it aint got a 3 pointed star on it now im not overly bothered unless its something like youve got there.
Im more into retro gaming and collect alot of NEO-GEO carts now, got loads of other consoles too, love it!! Remembering my teenage gaming years!!
How did you go with your projector?? Get it sorted??
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Hey man, suppose that's true, but at the end of the day I cant justify the extra expense and time for pc gaming.. I was a poor student in grade 9 when I bought that duron, it was before the days of the Athlon xp! But it was faster for a lot of things than my mates P4 1.5Ghz machine
Mercedes ey, I like the look of some of those, especially the amg versions. They say my statesmans headlights were Mercedes inspired. It drinks a fair bit but as it's just a show car on car club plates, I'd probably fill up its 91 litre tank twice a year. I take it out for holden car club events and car shows. My daily drive is my commodore wagon for work, on lpg injection. Do u have a merc?
Haven't touched the projector but I'll go with what u said and just increase the width control, thanks! I had always wondered whether the blanking solves that issue of running the image off the edge of the face.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | Can you read, Dragan? Where have I said the PS3 is the bomb? Where have I said it's awesome or to die for? Answer: I haven't. |
hmm, your very upset, definitely the addiction talking. Like criticizing a smokers away cigarettes
| ecrabb wrote: | Anyway, I simply disagreed that the PS3 was junk or inferior. In my opinion, it's a decent player, and there's very little wrong with it. It's very versatile and it offers a lot for the money - especially if you like to game.
So, unless you can show I'm wrong instead of making more baseless claims, it's all bull**** to me.
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ok, it's a decent player, lets let it go at that. My panasonic BD-80 us extremely slow so it's not like I'm tooting the horn for that one either.
i guess you need ot spend $500. for an Oppo to get a really good player with no "issues". Boy would I be pissed though after spending 5-large and finding bugs there too.
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| Casey wrote: | | Jeremy i agree for the most here, but the Panasonic i have loads Blurays about as quick as a PS3. When watching DVDs, the picture from the Panasonic is considerably better than the PS3. The stand alone cant play games, but its almost half the price and does the job of movie playing better, and even a pretty basic PC will do the job of gaming better than a PS3. |
Hey I'm a PC gamer, and, coming from a console guy that's a pretty scathing. Not a PS3 fan? There is something to be said for just popping in the disk and going on the PS3 as opposed to getting the right drivers for the PC configuring it etc..
I have the 60gb PS3 with the card readers. It's the handiest for viewing MP4 video and jpegs from any camera you can throw at it. Better media handling than the PC, don't have to search for updates blah, blah
Plus you can buy one for the cost of a windowz install disk. All including the hardware.
I get it. Your panasonic looks great. However the PS3 is great at many things besides just playing movies.
That being said I bought the S550 for the analog sound outputs. PS3 don't do that.
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Phoenixed
Joined: 13 Oct 2011
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Location: The mitten
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Dragan is secretly a Xbox fan boy. 
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