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mad mike · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 9 Location: nj

Hello . I'm seriously new to all this and I know if I just look around the answers to my many questions will be found . Having said that I've recently bought a sony 1272q with screen . I have some knowledge of crt tech but the people on here have seen these problems before . Now with that out of the way my problems so far are: 1 inability to get the guns converged on the edges top and left side . right side was doing it but appears to have stopped . 2 It seems that a lot of the controls on the remote keep telling me NOT APPLICABLE when I push them . Any answers would be welcomed .

rosenbush · Joined: 14 May 2010 Posts: 94 Location: Brownsville Texas

Keep pushing for more than 5 sec the 'TEST' Button on the remote to enter the service menu.

I recommend you to read at least this documents, they will help a lot:

http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/Sony1252_1272_Install.pdf

Next one if for 1270, but is very useful as well
http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/Sony_1270Q_CRT_Projector_Setup_Manual_April.pdf

ecrabb · Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject:

mad mike · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 9 Location: nj

Thank you for your aid in my time of need . When you see what time I posted this (4 am) you'll see that I am dedicated to getting this up and running . Plus I checked out Spider-Man 2 and ended up watching a majority of it . Your posts have allowed me to speed up the process and get this project finished . I should have known that the dealer manual would be far more in depth than the one it comes with . For the price they charged for this projector the owners were not setting it up themselves . One last question before I go . What is the best screen to go with this and since it will be 4/3 should I just come up with some masking for the other aspect ratios ? Thanks again for the links .

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject:

THe screen really depends on your sources. YEs, the tubes themselves are in 4:3 ratio, but if all you're running is HD sources, then you cn get a 16:9 or 2:35 screen.

As for the screen itself, anything from a 1-1.5 gain screen is fine. What you don't want is to use a glass bead screen, which feels like sandpaper when you run your fingernail across it. That's a much higher gain screen, and has a very small viewing angle. If you ceiling mount the set, then the best viewpoint is about 6-7' off the ground. Floor mounted, you might actually get a decent pix right behind the projector, but generally it's not advised.

What are your signal sources, and how are you getting them to the projector?

mad mike · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 9 Location: nj

Hello Curt . Currently running s-video and vga from my laptop . I fully intend to go HDMI and I'm looking at all the options for doing so . You noticed the manual suggests a glass bead screen ? That's why forums like this exist . The projector is currently in my hallway putting images on a white sheet . My thinking is to learn how to use it before installing in my theater which is going to take some doing .

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:05 am Post subject:

For years when I was in a condo, and I sold screens faster than I could bring them in, I used an off white wall. Worked fine, although whites were a bit yellow. Smile

Forget the Svideo. Use the DVD drive in the computer for DVDs, it will look far better than Svideo.

THe Moome card has better RGB processing than the Fury, although for the 1272, you might not notice the diference. Grab a used Fury2 or 3 if you can find one (they are banned off eBay, but are listed here once in a while)

mad mike · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 9 Location: nj

I'm back . So many questions . This site is a godsend for set up . I've learned about using the H pattern to align the guns and I do agree that it's a lot of fun setting it up but I've run into a snag . The guns won't line up at the very bottom and on the left side . Moving the guns to fix it just messes up the parts of the screen that are lined up . When I say moving the guns I mean by the controls only . Do I have to go in and move the guns physically ? One other thing . You've recommended a 6 or 7 foot install on the ceiling but that would be difficult at best since there are very few studs above me . If it comes down to it I'll open the ceiling but is it possible to mount this on a stand or a serious shelf right side up because floor monting is not an option either since my main seating is right where the projector would go .

mc86 · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject:

I couldn't find it, but there is a thread a guy from AZ posted once in which he welded a stand that held the PJ up right behind his couch!

That said, many recommend mounting the PJ to the ceiling using two sets of unistrut mount 90deg to one another. this lets you translate the PJ a little front/back or side-to-side once it is up. See here:
mounting using unistrut
Note this is good b/c the studs (joists) can be anywhere and you can bridge them with unistrut. A $15 studfinder or the bent coathanger trick is needed to find the joists.

That said, others recommending learning via floor-mount to figure out where to put it. Then flip her over and mount on the ceiling at same distance, etc. This is a rough-in feel and to practice the procedures to learn, etc. You'll find getting it close (don't spend time really nailing it - just close) works surprisingly well. Then flip it over (along with cables as per your model) and dial it in to the final screen. I actually measured very carefully and directly mounted it (non-movable) into the ceiling. This worked right up until I hung the screen 4" off center! Embarassed

Stick around the forum -- you'll find you will be hooked by this crowd and this wonderful machine you've got. I have a very comparable ES focus and Air-Coupled (albeit 7") machine and love it at 1080i. Unless you only watch at night in very black (as I do 95% of time), you'll need to resist the urge to get a huge screen for brightness and "pop". There was a post on this here:
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=20730.html

Also, might see this:
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=8188.html
and others on issues folks have run into.

Oh, I have a hdf3 and does nice job. I think there is a Moome card sell-off going on -- not sure if a card for your machine is there...folks here seem to LOVE Moome.

Cheers and welcome to the forum.
Matt

mad mike · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 9 Location: nj

Thanks Matt . It's a very addictive hobby and the final piece to complete my theater . I've always focused on the audio side since pj's were always out of my range . Currently I use a 65 Hitachi and have no wish to ever go digital . Don't really like the way they look . Now back to the subject at hand . In order to truly focus the guns I'm going to have to get in there and manually move them ? I suppose what I would like to hear is that it won't mess up the pj when it's done . I've read the procedure and it seems pretty straight forward but I'm worried . While I'm here might as well ask . Why does the picture look distoted in the middle ? By that I mean it looks like the left side is bowing out and the right side is following it in the same direction .

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject:

Try this:

Go into the 'zone' convergence menu, and manually set every parameter on every tube to 128 in both H and V directions. Use the zone 1 on the tubes to put the R G and B test pattern lines on top of each other dead center. Then post a pix of your test grid, and I'll tell you what needs adjustment.