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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Guys, keep in mind that new old stock 07MSP tubes with only 500 hours on them are REALLY sharp. I'll bet a lot of you haven't seen super low hour ES focus tubes, and they are fantastic... for about 2000 hours. I'll bet in another 2000 hours, 1080i will look better. |
I have, ive got 2 sets of 07MS tubes here that are low hours, one set is well under 500 hrs, the other set is probably abit over 1500 hours on them, and they are both mega sharp at 576i... Ultra sharp. So sharp they allow the 2 Sony 1001-QMs i have to rival my XG when using an S-Video signal.
One thing i have noticed on the 07MS tubes is setting the astig is so f***en easy its not funny, and its perfect right out to near the edges even when you use almost the entire phosphor area. Provided youve got the right shims in there for the right tube angles for the throw distance, you can use almost every bit of phosphor. I imagine the 07MSPs would be very simular as far as getting the astig set right.
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gjaky
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But 576i only paints 288 lines at a time in a 4:3 format while 1080i puts 540 lines in 16:9 so for perfect 1080i resolving you need space for about 3 empty lines between every scanline in 576i assuming the line thickness is the same -as they are.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Im not talking about lines or resolution, im talking about sharpness from the tubes.
If was to compare P16s to 07MSs or 07MSPs for 1080i, there is clearly no contest on which is better is there, cause one is a far more capable tube. However if i compare a resolution that they can both easily do, it will give a good indication of how sharp the tubes really are.
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Nordeen
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I've been able to compare a brand new HD digital projector to my "old" sony 1271. The picture is obviously sharper on the digital device, but the colors look somewhat un-natural and, what is absolutely unbearable, the image looks as though it was seen through a "greyish veil". You just feel like removing the "foggy" layer that prevents you from enjoying the film. I'll keep my crt.
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kal
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| Nordeen wrote: | | I've been able to compare a brand new HD digital projector to my "old" sony 1271. The picture is obviously sharper on the digital device, but the colors look somewhat un-natural and, what is absolutely unbearable, the image looks as though it was seen through a "greyish veil". You just feel like removing the "foggy" layer that prevents you from enjoying the film. I'll keep my crt. |
What digital projector?
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Nordeen
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Epson EHTW6000. Is it a good projector ?
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kal
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I have no idea if it's any good.
Doing some searching shows me that its's called the Epson 3010 in North America. Available for about $1000.
Seems to be 3chip LCD light canon (2200 lumens) when compared to the sorts of projectors that CRT owners or others use that care about image quality (like LCOS technology). For example, the JVC X30 puts out about half that light but costs 3 times as much.
I'm not surprised you didn't like it coming from CRT. I probably wouldn't like it either. I wouldn't discount all digital projectors based on how one looks.
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Nordeen
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Thanks for your reply Kal. I guess you're right. If I didn't own a crt projector, then maybe I wouldn't mind the somewhat "greyish" picture (which is particularly annoying in dark scenes). What's more, the Epson 3010 is an entry level digital projector. Unfortunately I haven't been able to see what a high end LCD projector delivers and I bet it must be quite acceptable. Anyway, I wouldn't want to spend 2000 dollars or more for a digital device that I would have to replace every other year.
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