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Nashou66
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| muttley wrote: | | the dvd player dose have green blue red component video out on the back |
that is not red green and blue colors its YPbPr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YPbPr
Y carries luma (brightness or luminance) and synchronization (sync) information. Y = 0.2126 R + 0.7152 G + 0.0722 B Before the advent of color television, the Y axis on an oscilloscope display of a video waveform represented the intensity of the scan line. With color, Y still represents intensity but it is a composite of the component colors.
PB carries the difference between blue and luma (B − Y).
PR carries the difference between red and luma (R − Y).
Read up on color space and RGB and YPbPr and YCrCb, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, etc etc etc
Nashou
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muttley
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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the dvd player dose have green blue red component video out on the back
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| muttley wrote: | | the dvd player dose have green blue red component video out on the back |
Right but it is not Red Green Blue Colors!!!! rhe red is Pr which is a the red part of the signal, Blue is Pb the blue component of the signal, Green is not Green!! its Y which is the luma part of the signal. Did you read and understand the links I gave you?
You need a RGB TRANSCODER!!! No other way around it.
I have more patience here than anyone I think, but man your wearing me down Mr Muttley.
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muttley
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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ive seen one on ebay really cheap at the mo so ill keep an eye on it
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mc86
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Hmm...nashou - maybe it is one of those momitsu units that have rgbhv out? (I'm not sure what the connectors are...bnc, etc?)
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muttley
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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right the projector has a scart input on it my dvd player has scart out iv got it connected so why dose it play back and white whats the point of having the connection when it dosent work
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Curt Palme
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You're dealing with a set that is well over 20 years old. That's why.
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HaydnG90
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Man, you guys have way more patience than I. The same posts are going up on AVS too. If I didn't know better I'd think someone was havin' a larf.
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Nashou66
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| muttley wrote: | | right the projector has a scart input on it my dvd player has scart out iv got it connected so why dose it play back and white whats the point of having the connection when it dosent work |
Ok so your unit does have SCART out? Does it have 2 Scart outs? One should be also an input for recording correct?
Did you read the manual for the DVD recorder?
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/2024212312.pdf
Look on Page 88 and 89, there is a setting for setting the SCART to RGB. try that.
Make sure COMPONENT is off, you have to make sure SCART is set to RGB.
Athanasios
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muttley
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:40 am Post subject: |
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hey i do appreciate every bodys help iam new to all this and a novice.
thanks again
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muttley
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:13 am Post subject: |
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HaydnG90 your up your own ass man get a f*cking life
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Nashou66 wrote: | you need an RGB transcoder to convert the Video out to the Red, Green, and Blue signals for color.
The scart adaptor does not convert a composite signal to to the appropriate Scart signals. So I bet that the adaptor is just splitting the composite signal to each RGB equally giving you a black and whit signal. there is no chroma signal being used.
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It doesnt work that way. The adaptor is only changing the plug type, it simply routes the composite signal from an RCA socket to pin 20 of the SCART plug, or if the switch is set to output, it routes pin 19 of the SCART plug to the RCA socket. The SCART socket on any display device will have composite video in on pin 20. When SCART is carrying RGB, it uses composite video for the sync signal. SCART is merely an all in one interface cable. Nothing more.
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SCART is a multi mode type of plug, it does have composite video ( which is also where it takes the sync signal for an RGB input ) so the adaptor is not converting the signal in any way, all it is doing is changing the plug type. Composite video is on pins 19 ( out ) and 20 ( in ) of the SCART socket. If the unit sees no blanking voltage on pin 16, it will set to composite video mode in almost all cases. 1-3 volts on pin 16 will switch to RGB mode, and will blank the composite video, but uses that composite video for the sync signal.
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Thats the standard of operation.
If the set doesnt accept composite via the SCART sockets, you should get no image at all, you should simply get sync to the signal and no image.
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:57 am Post subject: |
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solved thanks eveyone
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dturco
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| muttley wrote: | | solved thanks eveyone |
How? What was the issue in the end?
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I had to change the settings on the dvd player to rgb out it was only set to video. Hey if you know any way of out putting my laptop let me no. cheers
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