CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

Wckennard · Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Arlington, tx

I have recently acquired a Runco DTV991 Ultra from a client. As far as I know it still works fine. He tore down his house and is building a new one and doesn't want a VW in his theater. We will be replacing it with a 3 chip Christie. I don't really have a place for it in my setup so I was wondering what one of these goes for on the RGB market. Where is a good market place for one of these?

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

videogon.com, no sales here so this might get pulled

Wckennard · Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Arlington, tx

Thanks. Wasn't looking to sell it on here. Just curious as to the value of it.

mc86 · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject:

Think about it, suppose you had a business that provided products and a variety of services related to those products. Suppose you also , provided a free forum to clients and non-clients, alike so they could discuss the products and just about anything and everything else imaginable. Would you think it cool if someone come to your forum JUST to ask where to sell competing products?

At least contact Curt to see if he'd help you appraise it and, if so, what his fee would be. Hell, maybe he is interested at a price where you can still profit from it. Again, to me, it seems a bit tactless to come to this community just to blatantly ask where to sell it. I mean, clearly you read the rules on buying and selling here or you'd have simply posted it.

Matt

A Rogers · Joined: 14 Feb 2011 Posts: 133 Location: Toronto On

Depends on the tubes. I paid $60 for a XG75a recently with 8/8 blue and red and a 6 green. Personally if the tubes have a lot of wear I don't think its worth more than $40-50. With 9/9/9s I think it could fetch 300-500, though it really depends on your area. Parting the set out might be an option.

Wckennard · Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Arlington, tx

I didn't realize that I was stepping on any toes here. I just found this forum with a google search and thought I would pose the question to people that were more knowledgeable about CRTs than me. I honestly haven't done much digging around the website. It was an ignorant mistake and I appologize if I offended anyone.

Now suppose that I'm someone who is surfing theabout or info on the Runco 991 and suppose you find a forum that discusses such things. Now suppose you post what you thought was an innocent question and someone, who has nothing better to do but come up with a sarcastic post about how tactless your post was.
I have learned in my years the you catch more bees with honey than your a$$hole. Next time a little benefit of the doubt would be appreciated

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject:

Holy crap, BOTH of you settle down!

Unless the set wasn't used at all, chances are it will have wear on the tubes, making it more or less worthless. No sarcasm or finger pointing intended, but EVERYONE, I mean EVERYONE selling a CRT says 'looks to be in really good shape'. It stands to reason that most CRTs are physically in 'as new shape', as they are installed, then left alone, and considering most are on the ceiling, other than a bit of dust, no one is touching the set. That however says nothing about the tubes, which on an NEC/Runco 991 can show wear in as little as 800 hours.

The value of the set comes down to the tubes. It's a higher end mid level set, but the only sets really selling are 9" sets, which is why I'm blowing most of my reconditioned 8" sets out, retubed and with a warranty for almost less than cost at this point. Tubes are $600ish each, which is why not a lot of people are retubing them at this point.

A Rogers above pretty much has the pricing down correctly for an as is set without a warranty.

mc86 · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject:

I respect the very fact that you (the OP) are taking the time to at least look into doing something other than simply trashing the Runco for your client and as a general way of thinking. I should have stated this first as a matter of decorum. I guess what got me in an unusual lather was that you (the OP) are clearly a professional dealing with affluent clients and nice systems...AND, in that sense, I did give a sort of benefit of the doubt by thinking you'd be more aware than joe-off-the-street. I fit the later category as a non-affluent, not-quite enthusiast and knew when I found this site I wanted to know who this Curt Palme person was and why/how all this awesome CRT info was available for free!

Bottom line, sorry for the harsh rhetoric - mea culpa. If you look at my posts, you'll see sarcasm is not my norm. Stick around - you'll find folks with incredible knowledge here.

Did you look at the projector ranking list and model specifics? There is info there that might be helpful should you decide to part-it-out. You can do that on the buy-and-sell forum on this site, tho' a voluntary donation is encouraged.

BTW, I just looked up some of the 3-chip christies...some of those aren't all that small, either.

Matt

digitalayon · Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 921

Why doesn't this dude just enjoy the unit?

Kayrjay · Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 12

Well, I didn't expect to find a post dated TODAY about my 10+ year old Runco 991 Ultra! I'm not trying to sell it, but I am trying to get more use out of it.

Kal from CurtPalme has been kind enough to confirm that the EXT-FULLHD V3 3D from Moome (see http://moomecrtpj.blogspot.com/2010/11/ext-fullhd-v3-3d-universal-hdmi-14.html) should work with my projector. I will be connecting it via the five RGBHV wires now in the ceiling, so I'm hoping this card will allow me to watch HDCP-protected content at 1080p. That will be amazing.

I'm replacing an old Faroujda scaler and Lexicon processor with a nice Denon 3312CI, which I will connect to the EXT-FULLHD box and to my Parasound amp. Should be sweet.

I am wondering if I can use RF 3D glasses with this setup. The issue is that 3D requires 100 Hz or 120 Hz. I can't find specs for the 991 Ultra, but the 991 seems to go only to 70 Hz (http://www.curtpalme.com/PJSpecs_Runco.shtm). I'm pretty sure that my projector is a 991 Ultra, but only the 992 Ultra is listed here. Can anyone confirm that there IS a 991 Ultra and that its refresh rate is at least 100 Hz?

According to the doc, there is a 3D 3.5mm output port on the EXT-FULLHD. I was thinking of getting the MonsterVision Max 3D Eyewear System with Active Sync at Amazon.

Any comments/suggestions/cautions would be appreciated!

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

Kayrjay · Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 12

Thanks ... didn't realize the tube size would limit me to 1080i. But I can live with that, I'm sure. Sounds like I'm in relatively good shape.

Thanks

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

I have a RUNCO 991, and it will do 120Hz on 1920x1080i without a care in the world, so there is no good reason why an ULTRA wont.

You can do 3D at 60Hz perfectly fine with any projector capable of doing 1280x720p @60Hz, so again, no good reason your 991 ULTRA wont eat it.

There isnt much good reason to go with 1920x1080p over 1920x1080i anyway, if it is set up exceptionally well, 1920x1080i will look awesome and be very sharp. Again, it does on my 991, so no reason why it wont on your 991 ULTRA, and ive got a 5/10 green, a 6/10 red, and an 8/10 blue in my set.

And remember, in the CRT projector world there is only NEC and 8 hangers on.

gjaky · Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary

Case, if it is true that the 911 ultra has HD-8 lenses, then the chances are big the ultra is inferior to your plain 991. The HD-8 is much worse than the HD-144s, the HD-144s are the finest AC lenses!

HaydnG90 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1356

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

gjaky · Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary

Well, the informations are not consistent. The cross reference table here says it is an XG110 with HD-8 but on other places it is really said to be an LC machine.. to be honest a HD-8 lens doesn't fit in a NEC chassis since it has larger outer diameter, and the mounting holes are also different. So probably you're right, either way it should do fine 1080i.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

A 6PG plain with HD-6 lenses will do 1080i fine, so no good reason why an XG of any sort wont!!

gjaky · Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Your XTRA should have HD 144s or 145s!! That is what they came with originally as youd know.

My digital camera is buggered or i would post some pics for ya, the text on my 9PG with HD-6s is readable from the lounge at 1920x1080i, is a huge step up with the HD-144s though yes i do agree, but more so in the corners than the center. Wouldve been ratshit with TAC-4s on it!! They are perfectly fine for 15.75kHz signals though.

How does it look if you view one colour at a time?