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Wireless Signaling Individual Channels?

 
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WanMan



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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Wireless Signaling Individual Channels?

I was thinking that why we haven't seen a monoblock amplifier with the ability to receive and process a channel's audio signal wirelessly.

My MiniMe room could easily be setup to amplify the FL/FR/C channels from a single amplifier located in the front of the room, and something similar for the ML/MR and RR/RL channels.

I would think that with the need to wiring 12AWG cabling removed for the forwarding of wireless communications of the signal would make life for some easier.

Has anything like this been developed into a product?

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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject:

Wow, no one cared to offer any feedback? I would think that for transmitting a 0-28kHz signal over short distances would be relatively easy, even from an analog standpoint. I would also think that this would simplify retro installations. Yet, no one offers this?
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject:

I'll delurk for a second here.

It would work there is no question about that, we have the ability in pro sound, already, to transmit any signal wirelessly either instruments or mics. The only problem, and I have heard this, is that the wired signal is for the most part better sounding. For example, we have two microphones, one wired, one not, same capsule in each and we use both side by side. The wired one would sound better and be more reliable than the wireless one.

Now, back to your question, it would definitely be feasible to do what you say, heck you could do it now, although not elegantly. The only thing I would worry about is that a wireless signal is inherently not as robust as the wired signal. I'm pretty sure with the right transmitters and processing the sound could be very good.

I did state that a wired mic is usually worse sounding than its wired counterpart, but in reality most people wouldn't notice the difference because the convenience is vastly more important than absolute sound quality and the same could be said for surround channels.

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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject:

The worst part about this idea is that if it became popular, the "audiophile" companies would start selling special air for you to put in your room to improve the sound.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject:

Rear wireless surround speakers have already been made. Not sure who or where, but I've read about them. Most people just don't have that much of an issue running wires.

And why 12 gauge? that's way way overkill for surrounds..Smile

Oh, I remember now, try Recoton for wireless speakers w/built in amps. We installed a pair in a bedroom where wiring simply couldn't be run. We installed a stereo pot from the main speaker up the wall to beside the woman's bed so she could control the volume. 900 Mhz, it worked fine at the time. Maybe 6 years ago we did that?
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject:

Recoton went out of business a couple of years ago. They owed the company I work for some cash. I have a couple of pairs of those speakers. They're great if you have a 900Mhz cordless phone too. You can tune in the phone on the speakers.

I think I just sounded like a geek there. Smile

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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Recoton went out of business a couple of years ago. They owed the company I work for some cash. I have a couple of pairs of those speakers. They're great if you have a 900Mhz cordless phone too. You can tune in the phone on the speakers.

I think I just sounded like a geek there. Smile
Laughing So did you get paid in Recoton's to end up with two sets? And yup they're gone tats up. I'm reallllllly surprised they didn't shift their target audience to wireless outdoor speakers like fake rocks and such. Good idea but they still weren't totally wireless. They were AC/DC IIRC but even so, who wants to keep buying/charging D cell batteries?
And yes...You're a geek. So quit fighting it man. Thumbs Up Mr. Green (At least you made it....I'm still just a wanna-be.) Laughing

EDIT: http://www.recoton.com/ Looks like they're restructuring....in perpetuity.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject:

JustGreg wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
Recoton went out of business a couple of years ago. They owed the company I work for some cash. I have a couple of pairs of those speakers. They're great if you have a 900Mhz cordless phone too. You can tune in the phone on the speakers.

I think I just sounded like a geek there. Smile
Laughing So did you get paid in Recoton's to end up with two sets?


A surplus discounter warehouse bought a few truckloads from them. I paid ( i think ) $30.00 a pair. One of the speakers won't staytuned just right to the frequency but I guess I can't claim waranty now can I?

I took a pair to the cottage and used them with the 1252 to make a quicky movie theater. Worked pretty good.

JustGreg wrote:

And yup they're gone tats up. I'm reallllllly surprised they didn't shift their target audience to wireless outdoor speakers like fake rocks and such. Good idea but they still weren't totally wireless. They were AC/DC IIRC but even so, who wants to keep buying/charging D cell batteries?


They did have some of those. I always thought they should have had a wireless power option but Tesla's wireless power invention never quite took off. Sad

JustGreg wrote:

And yes...You're a geek. So quit fighting it man. Thumbs Up Mr. Green (At least you made it....I'm still just a wanna-be.) Laughing


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Yep I am. I just surprise myself at how geeky I can really be. Thumbs Up

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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject:

Wow, I am surprised no one complained about the analog vs. digital signal transmission. Digitally speaking, I cannot see why something like 2-5 GHz transmission cannot be accommodated. Heck, aren't we doing that now for the tiny 4kHz analog telephone (voice) we are transmitting.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject:

there are lots of good ideas out there that never show up on the market
the general public just does not care so there is no money in it
i think sonic t should make a 5 channel sonic t amp so i can use it on my 5.1 sound cards in my puter
but instead i had to buy 3 amps
and why dont they make a 30 watt per channel version of the sonic t
that was one of my first setups
an htpc with 3 sonic t amps powered by a at power supply 3 pair of jensen 4 inch 2 ways i paid 9 bucks a piece for
and an overhead projector and projection panel
it was rough it was cheap but i had fun doing it lol
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject:

Sounds like an excuse. I'm hedging its more ignorance than lack of product desire.
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