Return to the CurtPalme.com main site CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum
A forum with a sense of fun and community for Home Theater enthusiasts!
Products for Sale ] [ FAQ: Hooking it all up ] [ CRT Primer/FAQ ] [ Best/Worst CRT Projectors List ] [ Setup Tips & Manuals ] [ Advanced Procedures ] [ Newsletter ]
 

Blu-ray disc release list and must-have titles. Buy the latest and best Blu-ray titles to show off in your home theater!

 As this forum is rarely used anymore, we've locked it. Feel free to browse and read. Questions? Please reach out to us directly. Cheers! 

HD10F lens swap on 9500LC
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    CurtPalme.com Forum Index -> CRT Projectors
Author Message
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject:

It's definitely not the lens. The first thing I did was pull the lens off to see if it was dust, hair, etc. With the lens off (PJ turned off) I examined the lens itself, the C-element and phosphor and found nothing. With the lens still removed, I then turned the PJ on and the contrast down (material was DVE overscan pattern) and could see the dots on the illuminated phosphor image. The dots are present regardless of source material.

The other thing is that I watched these dots come out of no where while I was adjusting the green random access as part of geometry touch up. It's got to be a digital artifact, the question is what the hell is causing it. To add to the confusion they popped up in an area where I hadn't done any adjustment Confused

WTF???

_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
CIR Engineering



Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 4269
Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject:

jbmeyer13 wrote:
It's definitely not the lens. The first thing I did was pull the lens off to see if it was dust, hair, etc. With the lens off (PJ turned off) I examined the lens itself, the C-element and phosphor and found nothing. With the lens still removed, I then turned the PJ on and the contrast down (material was DVE overscan pattern) and could see the dots on the illuminated phosphor image. The dots are present regardless of source material.

The other thing is that I watched these dots come out of no where while I was adjusting the green random access as part of geometry touch up. It's got to be a digital artifact, the question is what the hell is causing it. To add to the confusion they popped up in an area where I hadn't done any adjustment Confused

WTF???

Reset your zone to default values (press the zero button while on the zone screen). I would reset for all three colors.

craigr

_________________
JETI 1501-HiRes 2nm Spectroradiometer
JETI 1211 Spectroradiometer
Photo Research PR-650 Spectroradiometer
Klein K10-A Colorimeter
Murideo Fresco SIX-G HDMI 2.x Multimedia Generator
Murideo Fresco SIX-A HDMI 2.x Analyzer
Light Illusion ColourSpace XPT Color Calibration Software
Light Illusion LightSpace XPT Pro Version 10.x Color Calibration Software
OMARDRIS JVC Software Patch to use K10-A and Jeti with JVC OEM AutoCal Software!
Sencore CR7000 CRT Tube Analyzer / Rejuvenater
Authorized Dealer for Lumagen & just about everything worth buying Wink
www.CIR-Engineering.com - craigr@cir-engineering.com
Phone: 865-405-6892
Back to top
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject:

I pulled up the guided convergence grid and hit zero (cycled through all 3 colors) which re-set the dynamic and static convergence and I still see the dots on the green field.
_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject:

Another thing I noticed is that if I adjust the green grid via random access the dots remain stationary even as the grid moves. Some how I get the feeling that is really bad...
_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject:

Ok , maybe it is a CLM issue . Remove and clean ic U7 on the DPB. Youll need a IC puller from radio shack. Or a quick check before you buy a chip puller is to remove the DPB from the CLM. Place it on a flat no static surface and press down on the U7 chip, it might "snap" , that is ok. It be great if you could capture the dots in a pic.

Nashou

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." --- President Reagan

One Smart Dog!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject:

Nash-

Do you have a photo/schematic of the DPB/CLM? If I remove the DPB do a run the risk of losing any settings? I tried to take several photos but I couldn't capture the spots.

_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
dvh99



Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 2158
Location: nederland

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject:

you will not lose any settings.

i think your problem is on the vim though.

_________________
1 answer always poses multiple questions.
marquee 9500ultra HD10L moome hdmi1.3 v3+ some mods.
Back to top
Tim in Phoenix



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 4409
Location: Phoenix

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject:

dvh99 wrote:
you will not lose any settings.

i think your problem is on the vim though.



Yes, or unwanted signals from the CLM. We have seen that with black horizontal lines before.


.
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
dvh99 wrote:
you will not lose any settings.

i think your problem is on the vim though.



Yes, or unwanted signals from the CLM. We have seen that with black horizontal lines before.


.


Thats what I was thinking, it might be a similar issue.

I dont have a pic but its easy to see. U7 is written on the Smaller board. its the board on the left side if looking at the CLM from the metal plate that has the lights on it.

At work all night, went golfing in the am and sucked real bad! Sad

Athanasios

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." --- President Reagan

One Smart Dog!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject:

I pulled out the control module. That chip has labels over it that say "Madrigal 5.6"; it was modded by Hi-Rez last May. Unless I'm missing something it looks like that chip is soldered in place (and some very delicate soldering it was).
_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject:

This is a photo of one of the dots


This appears to be the U7 chip; which doesn't look like an easy task to remove or re-attach

_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:45 am    Post subject:

One question to make sure its not an electronic artifact, are they in some sort of pattern or just random.

Athanasios

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." --- President Reagan

One Smart Dog!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
Tim in Phoenix



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Posts: 4409
Location: Phoenix

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject:

jbmeyer13 wrote:

This appears to be the U7 chip; which doesn't look like an easy task to remove or re-attach



What is that????? U7 is always in a socket so it can be upgraded by swapping later.


.
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject:

Tim, Some of the later Marquee's have soldered U7 chips. I know of some who have mentioned they have soldered in Chips on the CLM, not only U7 but others as well.

Athanasios

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." --- President Reagan

One Smart Dog!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
One question to make sure its not an electronic artifact, are they in some sort of pattern or just random.

Athanasios


Random

_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:49 am    Post subject:

Not a good sign. Id say its the tube. Is that pic off the tube or off the screen? I ask cause how visible is it on normal material?

Sorry

Nashou

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." --- President Reagan

One Smart Dog!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
jbmeyer13



Joined: 03 Dec 2010
Posts: 1135


Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject:

The picture is off the screen. Well after all the hard work to get it set up I end up being screwed by a shittty VDC tube with less than 1000 hours on it. What a f*cking joke...
_________________
Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
Back to top
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    CurtPalme.com Forum Index -> CRT Projectors All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum