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Convert 240v to 110v - Denon DRS-810 Cassette Deck
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Jeremy112



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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Convert 240v to 110v - Denon DRS-810 Cassette Deck

Bought this deck from a place in the UK, its got the 240v power cord and obviously runs on 240v. if the internals of the deck do not have a switch for the voltage, how hard is it going to be to convert it to US 110v?

It comes sometime today so I wanted to get an idea of what this entails. I really dont want to buy a voltage adapter, and if I do modify the deck I would prefer to keep it looking as unmodified as possible on the outside Smile

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject:

Sometimes there's a tied off wire on the power transformer primary with the 110 volt tap. If there are only two wires out of the primary of the power transformer, you'll need to find a 110 volt power transformer. hopefully there's not too many secondaries coming out of it.

Or.. can you fit a small 110 to 220 volt transformer within the deck?
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Sometimes there's a tied off wire on the power transformer primary with the 110 volt tap. If there are only two wires out of the primary of the power transformer, you'll need to find a 110 volt power transformer. hopefully there's not too many secondaries coming out of it.

Or.. can you fit a small 110 to 220 volt transformer within the deck?


Not yet sure Curt it will be here anytime today, should be within 2 hours or so. I hope either it can be converted or it is ready to convert from the factory. The deck is in mint condition which is why I bought it from the UK instead of US ebay.

Will let you know what its got when it gets here Very Happy

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject:

If it's the Asia model then it has a voltage selector switch. If it's the UK/Austrailian or European model then it uses a different transformer then the US and Canada models. No selector switch on these.
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
If it's the Asia model then it has a voltage selector switch. If it's the UK/Austrailian or European model then it uses a different transformer then the US and Canada models. No selector switch on these.


Just got the deck, its a full on UK model, nothing but 230v input lol

So what do I do to convert this thing? Very Happy

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject:

What, my first advice was chopped liver? Razz
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
What, my first advice was chopped liver? Razz


Actually checking that out right now, no wires actually coming from the transformer, its soldered to the bottom of the board so I have to take it out and see Razz

Will post back with what I find

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject:

Oh, if that's the case, then I'll bet it's 220 only. Sad

I don't think you'll find a transformer like that, and I"ll bet it has several windings on it, like 15-0-15 volts AC, and then probably some other voltage, like 10 or something stupid. Maybe not though.

Here's your cheapest option:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/50W-AC-Power-Voltage-Converter-Transformer-110V-220V-/120749996453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1d42b9a5
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject:

Okay, I have no idea what I'm looking at Very Happy. I know what the parts are, as to what they are doing in this circuit, no idea Very Happy

Anyway heres pics.

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:

Here's your cheapest option:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/50W-AC-Power-Voltage-Converter-Transformer-110V-220V-/120749996453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1d42b9a5


Wrong connection, its the plug end that has 2 large rectangular pins, then one more large rectangular pin, its about a 2" diameter plug Neutral

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject:

OK, well there are others on eBay, either cut the plug off and put on the one that will fit this adapter, or I'm sure the correct AC transformer version is there on eBay somewhere...Smile
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject:

Jeez, I'm gone for a couple hours and look what happens.,,,LOL Laughing


Here ya go: http://www.pacparts.com/model.cfm?mfg=denon&model_id=DRS610&action=list_part&CFID=5862139&CFTOKEN=4d8ee51fa950e2d5-BFD0E988-F28E-EB31-03CF1E64882DD887&back=0&mode=auto


scroll down to: 2335758009

This is the US version, 110v.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Jeez, I'm gone for a couple hours and look what happens.,,,LOL Laughing


Here ya go: http://www.pacparts.com/model.cfm?mfg=denon&model_id=DRS610&action=list_part&CFID=5862139&CFTOKEN=4d8ee51fa950e2d5-BFD0E988-F28E-EB31-03CF1E64882DD887&back=0&mode=auto


scroll down to: 2335758009

This is the US version, 110v.


Thanks Mac, good idea, lol Mr. Green

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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject:

Bought a Denon DRS-640 off ebay thats all banged up, but its US, it works, and has the transformer and power cord I need, and it will still all be denon. got it for $50 shipped so it was a better buy Very Happy
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject:

OK, judgement call here. A super nice deck, but is it all that compared to say a Nak 3 head unit?

Not trying to flame here, but I'm not familiar with that Denon model.. Seems like they go for big $$ though..
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
OK, judgement call here. A super nice deck, but is it all that compared to say a Nak 3 head unit?

Not trying to flame here, but I'm not familiar with that Denon model.. Seems like they go for big $$ though..


Not sure yet Curt, but from what I read the DRS line of denon Cassettes is their top of the line series. Theres the DRS-610, 640, and 810. Obviously 810 being the top of the line model.

Unlike the other DRS decks (which also had the horizontal loading tray) it has 3 heads instead of 2, and a 4 motor transport. The only belt I noticed in it is for the opening/closing of the tray.

Its a hefty unit, about 12 pounds or more I would say, looks to be quality built (as most denon stuff is). The only thing left to do is listen to it which I cannot wait to do!

As for Nak units, never heard a nakamichi, but from what I've read over on tapeheads forum is that Naks are the best.

Then again, I dont think many of them have had this model Denon deck or one like it.

Lets put it this way, it better sound good dammit, I have $263 into it with the 2nd parts deck Razz

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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject:

Cool, let me know. I have a middle of the road Nak, 3 head, probably a bit lower end than yours. I love that deck, but now it appears that one channel is dead in record mode.

Before that I had an Aiwa 6950 (I think that's the model). Paid $400 for it back in 1981. It was the first 3 head deck I owned, and the first cassette deck that I didn't hear the difference between LP and Cassette. Both those decks have seen heavy use, and the Aiwa is now toast, as the mechanism is impossible to get into. I got my money out of it though. It was the mid 70s deck with dual analog VU meters, one for RMS and one for peak readings.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject:

Well I got the deck to part out the transformer & power cord, I swapped the transformers, and noticed the new one only has 2 pins on the primary vs 3 pins like the old one.

needless to say I went ahead soldered it all in and changed it over, and no power....

So I assume something is not right?? Confused

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject:

I've got it! I had to add the 3rd primary because the deck I removed it from did not use that, so denon cut it off. I added it and voila!!! we have a working mint DRS-810 that is now a US version Very Happy

WOOOT!!!! Mr. Green

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