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jbmeyer13
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Damn frikin help!!!! I just hired a new cook to take the load off me and the other guy who has been unreliable cause of all the hours he
was working, so now hes calling off more. He is trying to get fired so he can collect 99 weeks of bam bam money. Piece of sh*t. I'm stuck at work tonight....this talk here got me all excited to move the 9500 into the theater but now who knows what's going to happen. I aint going to let this bastard get me to fire him. I'll have to get him to quit. In NYS if you quit you have to wait 8 weeks to collect unemployment. If you get fired you can collect right away. I think there is a way to fight it but I don't want to go through all that.
he is 31 and has been coming to my place for years, worked a few times as a dishwasher, fired him then collected tot he max each time. its his MO. I figured by 31 hed grow up. Nope! he must have had close to 40 jobs since i have known him. \
Idiot.
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Not only is he making your life difficult but mine too! Tell him that if he doesn't get his sh!t together his neck will join my HDM...they will both be ringing 
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Boilermaker
Joined: 21 May 2006
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Just thought that some of you might find this interesting - It comes from ISF and they have an interesting take on 4K.
| Quote: | We've seen it before, but we zipped through it quickly and without much hand wringing. This time it could be real trouble. It's called up-conversion. Here's the thing.
Consider the case of the first kid on the block to bring home the new Holy Grail, an 8 million pixel display (be cool and call it 4K) ... could happen in the second half of this year. He pops in his favorite reference Blu-Ray disc, looking for nirvana. By review of a couple other numbers, here's what's going to happen.
The BD player is going to spit out data for 2,073,600 pixels (1080x1920) like it always does, to a panel that is obliged to light up 8,294,400 pixels (2160x3840). What happens now?
The panel manufacturer will tell you, "Due to our proprietary algorithm for spatial and temporal smoothing, everything will image properly.
If given sodium pentothal he would have said "One pixel in four will be correct. The other three will just be guesses".
On a 42" PDP, the quality of the "guesses" might not be such a big deal, but on the 84" LG at the show, you could see the artifacts from 15 feet. Now add fast motion ... whoa!
Now let's watch a standard DVD ... remember those? (480x720). This time, one pixel in 24 is original and 23 are hocus-pocus. Standard definition on an 8K display? One pixel in 96 will be accurate. I'm sure you can see what's happening here.
Let's be clear about resolution ... O.K., pun intended. 4K is waaay better than old fashion HD. Four times better to be precise - but ONLY if fed with a native resolution source.
In an effort to demonstrate that 4K wasn't just for large screens, Panasonic demo'ed a 4K, 20" screen at the show ... but they cheated ... sort of. The content was uncompressed from a 4k camera. Absolutely gorgeous. Best image I saw at the show, bar none. Sadly, we can't do that. We're stuck with 1080 feeds for awhile.
Moral is, when the day comes when we have ample 4K content, we are going to LOVE our 4K displays. Until then, we'll just have to pray for good guesses. |
Bob
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ecrabb
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TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have one thing to say to the author of that article: "Thank you, Mr. Obvious."
Seriously, duh. We had exactly the same conversations in the transition from 480i to 480p, from 1080i to 1080p, and from SD to HD.
Plus, calling scaling "guessing" really diminishes the art and science involved in good scaling, which has gotten very sophisticated.
For large-screen projection, I'll still take a 4k display running really well-scaled 1080p content over a native 1080p display. It gets digital much closer to one of the things I love about CRT, which is lack of visible pixels.
Just like when HD came out and we only had DVD, in a couple of years, this discussion will be moot.
SC
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Boilermaker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | We had exactly the same conversations in the transition from 480i to 480p, from 1080i to 1080p, and from SD to HD |
I'll agree with the SD to HD, but the 480i to 480P and the 1080i to 1080P does not extrapolate data, it just de-interlaces, and that has just about been perfected.
| Quote: | | I'll still take a 4k display running really well-scaled 1080p content over a native 1080p display |
The "well-scaled" part is the important part and in the opinion of the writer, LG didn't pull it off.
I know I'll get flamed again, but I would much prefer an anamorphic 1080 BD than a scaled up 800 to anything whether it was crt or digital.
| Quote: | | Just like when HD came out and we only had DVD, in a couple of years, this discussion will be moot. |
You might be right, but I don't see native 4K programming coming anytime in the forseeable future when Joe 6-pack still thinks his DVD is HD when played on his flat screen.
Bob
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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Location: Comedy Central
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Bob,
Did you ever come down to Fl?
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Boilermaker
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Spanky,
Not yet - probably in a few weeks.
Bob
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Spanky Ham
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Sounds good.
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