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haireez
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 207 Location: singapore
TV/Projector: Vidikron Vision 1 - Ultra
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Guys,
Need some help. I've always wanted to improve my Vision 1 picture quality and follow closely on Marquee modification.
I changed resistors as per Nashou's thread : http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=106306#106306
However, I made a mistake by putting 270ohm resistor instead of 270k. Initially, the picture was OK for 2 days but it suddenly 'POP' and burnt both resistor. I've change the correct resistors on both of them but the picture is not stable right now.
Does anybody know what or which resistor is failing?
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Are the location id's of those resistors R6 and R94?
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dvh99
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haireez, whatever you do, do 1 thing at a time, test for a couple hours and then proceed.
macgyver, could the lvps have been damaged by this?
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haireez
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 207 Location: singapore
TV/Projector: Vidikron Vision 1 - Ultra
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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It's the R5 & R46 resistors that 'POP'. Anyway, I have a spare HVPS and confirmed that the LVPS and other component is good except for HVPS.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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1) What do you mean by the pic is not stable?
2) Was it stable before the POP?
3) Whats the number on the supply?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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Gday Macgyver!! Long time no see mate!!
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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See what Mac says because I am no expert on the Marquee HVPS. However, I don't recommend messing about too much with the HVPS. You can run outside the X-Ray emissions compliance of the projector...
It might be best to just scrap the one you popped and never use it again. There might be health consequences.
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haireez
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 207 Location: singapore
TV/Projector: Vidikron Vision 1 - Ultra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mac,
Below is the answer pertaining to your 3 questions.
1. The pictures is shaking from left to right (Tried to attached videos but unable to do so. I will send email to you soon)
2. Yes, this is a good HVPS until I made some error on the resistor.
3. Part number as per attachment
Hi Craig,
I've thrown the POP resistor and replaced with correct resistor but still unstable.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if you could have an H board issue? HV instability would usually result in an image increase or decrease in size all around, not just H shaking.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Based on those MOV's you sent me you have some voltage fluctuation going on there. I would examine the disc shaped caps very closely. When they pop they usually just split the side a little bit and sometimes hard to find.
I dont have the print for the model so can't guide you directly. But use the traces on the board from those blown resistors and check components in both directions.
Curt, the pic is not really shaking back and forth as I thought from his description also. Its slightly changing size but in a consistent direction.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Also, even the poly caps can split and be hard to find.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Wait a minute here. Are we looking at the same print. My print says R5 and R46 should be 220 ohms and R6 and R94 should be 270k.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I misunderstood his posts then. The ones he incorrectly installed were R6 and R94. And the ones that blew were R5 and R46.
I'll wait for the answer.
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haireez
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 207 Location: singapore
TV/Projector: Vidikron Vision 1 - Ultra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| haireez wrote: | Guys,
I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine. |
Ok, R2 is suppose to be 47 ohm. Do you want to recheck? I need you to be very specific.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | haireez wrote: | Guys,
I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine. |
Ok, R2 is suppose to be 47 ohm. Do you want to recheck? I need you to be very specific. |
You beat me to it ! Yes R94 is 270k.
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haireez
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 207 Location: singapore
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
Very interesting as my board shows R2 and not R94
Refer to photo attached.
However, does it matter? I have actually changed both to the correct value (270k) but why the image is still shaking.
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