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Any one else notice Bluray is not ready for primetime?
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Any one else notice Bluray is not ready for primetime?

How many dam disks will I get that refuse to play or require a damned upgrade. I've jumped through that hoop too many times all ready. The whole idea of having a stand alone is so it **just** works.

If I want an argument I'll fire up one of the HTPC's.

Why do they make us beta testers for their players? Bluray has been out now for years. Surely they can author a disk that will play in all players.

It seems they rushed bluray to market way too fast. I got DVD the first year it was out and I don't recall any major issues with disk's not playing.


I caught Fantasia on sale at the midnight madness tonight for a good price. I hadn't seen it in years so I was looking forward to it. Of course all the damn previews play just fine but I can't see the feature presentation. Bastards!

Why can't the damn studios author a disk that just works? </rant>

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject:

You answered your own questions AR! Thumbs Up Mr. Green

Yeah I wonder if they keep playing with the anti piracy coding to keep the crooks off balance.

That brings to mind the pro gun axiom..."If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns". I guess they're thinking that if you're legit you won't mind pissing away a couple hours watching a progress indicator creep (like an iceberg) across the screen while they log your IP. Rolling Eyes

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject:

All of my SD and HD DVD's play just fine and no firmware updates required.... Thanks to Sony and Bluray for coming up with an HD format that will not allow you to watch what you just paid for.......

It's even worse if you have to buy a new player with the latest and greatest firmware just to watch the freaking movie !

Screw HDCP/Bluray and why does the player need internet access anyway ? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject:

I have about a hundred BD disks. Only one failed to play off the bat and that was on a player that later failed to play regular DVDs (Samsung 1400). All other players have played their BDs one the first and every try. Must be you, AR. Stop greasing up the tray with that damn Canadian Bacon! Very Happy
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject:

I guess I'm spoiled since I've played hundreds of BD's on the ps3 and never had a single one I couldn't play. Fantasia is a pretty new disc... How old is your player, Jeremy?

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject:

Sony BDP-S550 Jan '09
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject:

What SC said... I use a PS3 and have played many hundreds. No issues at all. Probably because the firmware's always up to date (wireless internet).

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Was this a rental again? Did you do the update last year? I have had no issues with my Sony BDs550.
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject:

Never had a disc that wouldn't play.

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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject:

i use a htpc and all my downloads (full blue ray rips) play flawless.
i never played an actual disc though Mr. Green .
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject:

I just did the firmware update on the BDP-S550. It still took 3 attempts to get the f*&^in thing to load.

I got the following message when I tried my PS3: "You need to download a new encription key" or some such non-sense.

bull**** bull**** bull****!

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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject:

Have you ever been able to watch this disk? Maybe it is the disk and not the player. Then again, we are talking about the Disney (ahem, SS) title here. Maybe Disney doesn't like Canadians. Razz
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject:

I have a bdp-s570 and have done the firmware updates, but it took avatar like 5 minutes to load! and when I try to go back to the menu, you wait another minute each time. awful.
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject:

I watched it. I forgot it was 4:3. I knew I should have bought a scaler for this TV. I HATE pillar box!

Oh well, another wonder full world of Disney encription

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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject:

Actually, the one nice feature of on the Panasonic plasma is that it can change formats at 'my will'. I usually zoom in to fit the 16x9 aspect. I also do this with the DirecTV when watching some of the movies on TCM.
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject:

I'm using a CRT RPTV ( imagine that ) the aspect ratio controls only work in 480i. Hence the reason I should have bought a scaler.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:03 am    Post subject:

I haven't loaded a disk in my HTPC for over a year...Rip them all and watch em. Saves all the aggravation, instant load times too. I just built a PC based media player with parts I had laying around for my living room. Just a hard drive motherboard ram and video card.

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
I haven't loaded a disk in my HTPC for over a year...Rip them all and watch em. Saves all the aggravation, instant load times too. I just built an PC based media player with parts I had laying around for my living room. Just a hard drive motherboard ram and video card.

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I hate ripping disks. I just want to put it in the STB and play the f(*&in thing. I haven't used my HTPC in almost a year.

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:03 am    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
I just built an PC based media player with parts I had laying around for my living room. Just a hard drive motherboard ram and video card.

You built a Blu-ray-capable media player with "parts you had laying around", Mike? Do you mean you already had a case, power supply, and BD drive and you just had add a HD, motherboard, RAM and video card? Even in that case, you had to spend another $300 or so! What about the CPU?

I'm always amazed when I price out building a PC... Seems like it'll be cheap, but that $50 here/$90 there thing really adds up, and all of sudden you have $500 in the damn thing.

I don't want to spend that much, so I've been looking at grabbing a surplus/off-lease IBM Core 2 Duo desktop box for $150 or so, throwing a $50 video card and a $100 BD burner in it and calling it a day. My old P4/3.0-whatever won't even play Hulu or QuickTime files at full frame rate. MPEG-2 TS files were fine, so I guess the HD H.264 stuff is just too CPU-intensive.

AnalogRocks wrote:
I hate ripping disks. I just want to put it in the STB and play the f(*&in thing. I haven't used my HTPC in almost a year.

Holy sh*t, now there's something you and agree on, Jeremy!!! I very, very rarely watch anything twice, so it just isn't worth the time to rip it. I just don't see the point. A little demo material is all I really need loaded up. Well, that and a few kids' movies, but they really don't care if it's ripped from BD, DVD, or whatever. Wink

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject:

I think he was talking about a media player not a bluray player.

That is the beauty of ripping the media and storing in on the network...several devices (that aren't expensive) can play the BR's without a drive at all.

$200

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