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wildchild22
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I am using a moome internal card 1.3 version hdmi
I am unsure what you mean by code ( if you mean resolution) I would recommend 720p @ 71.93 for a film and 720p @ 59.94 for video.
I am still trying a boat load of resolutions. So far I like either 1080i or 720p @ 119.88hz or 720p either at 59.94 or 71.93.
I really do not like 1080i at less than 119.88 because of the obvious scan lines where I sit so close.
My room is very small I have approx 110" 16:9 screen and sit less than 7 feet from it. Like Imax but a little too big. LIke when you sit too close in a movie theater and you can miss action on the sides as you focus on the center.
But I have to live with it seeing I cant make my room larger.
You need a scaler with an xg unless you like 1080i or 720p at 59.94 hz.
I would recommend a Iscan vp50 pro or vp50,
or lumagen radiance, hdp or dvi.
But once you see the universal pictures globe with the universal writing panning in at a multiple of 23.976 and how silky smooth it is there is no going back.
I am not sensitive to judder at all but the universal opening sequence sure is a good test.
Do not get hung up on resolution as too my eyes 720p vs 1080p is not that big of a difference. Most stuff you watch is lower than 720p in my opinion from bell tv here in Canada. I find a lot of tv show mkvs to be of better quality than bell delivers these days. Gone are the days of bells quality such as Gladiator(the movie) that was and is still reference quality mpeg2.
| seong6788 wrote: | | halo wildchild22, i'm leong here i"m new in crt user,may i ask u,are u still use moome?i just buy from frns i need u help is, what code i need to set in moome they i'm use XG1100 non LC,and wich is better for XG 1100 i have HD fury and moome too? |
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MikeEby
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| wildchild22 wrote: | I am using a moome internal card 1.3 version hdmi
I am unsure what you mean by code ( if you mean resolution) I would recommend 720p @ 71.93 for a film and 720p @ 59.94 for video.
I am still trying a boat load of resolutions. So far I like either 1080i or 720p @ 119.88hz or 720p either at 59.94 or 71.93.
I really do not like 1080i at less than 119.88 because of the obvious scan lines where I sit so close.
My room is very small I have approx 110" 16:9 screen and sit less than 7 feet from it. Like Imax but a little too big. LIke when you sit too close in a movie theater and you can miss action on the sides as you focus on the center.
But I have to live with it seeing I cant make my room larger.
You need a scaler with an xg unless you like 1080i or 720p at 59.94 hz.
I would recommend a Iscan vp50 pro or vp50,
or lumagen radiance, hdp or dvi.
But once you see the universal pictures globe with the universal writing panning in at a multiple of 23.976 and how silky smooth it is there is no going back.
I am not sensitive to judder at all but the universal opening sequence sure is a good test.
Do not get hung up on resolution as too my eyes 720p vs 1080p is not that big of a difference. Most stuff you watch is lower than 720p in my opinion from bell tv here in Canada. I find a lot of tv show mkvs to be of better quality than bell delivers these days. Gone are the days of bells quality such as Gladiator(the movie) that was and is still reference quality mpeg2.
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Great post wildchild...I agree with what you said 100% 720p@120 looks pretty damn good on an XG. Keep in mind if you have any computer skills you can get HD to an XG running plain old RGBHV with an HTPC.
Mike
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Spanky Ham
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I have never thought about running 720p that high. It sounds like fun.
On screens, I love a flat finish. I am with you guys on that. I understand those that want a higher gain with a higher gloss. Unto each their own. That is an interesting experiment Chip. I will have to check that out.
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Spanky Ham
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Eric, Ever get the 909's running? At least one set up dude!!
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It is funny you should mention that (or not funny). My roommate has decided to put some more stuff in the garage. Plus, I got a little busy with work. As soon as I can get him to help me, I am going to move the G90 and G70 into the spare room. That will clear up some space and I am going to start playing with them. I realize now that what was supposed to be a short term living situation with the roommate didn't turn out that way. As I told my best friend, it will take a crow bar to get him out. So, I am just going to work around the situation. Hopefully, I can get to this in the next week. I don't really have a lot of work scheduled.
I might add that there were a couple of days that got down into the 40s this month. Who wants to work in that type of cold weather? I actually had to put a long sleeve shirt on. 
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WanMan
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Won't running 720P require you to reduce the raster size vertically or have noticeable gaps between the horizontal lines?
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Das444
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Hi,
I just started playing with my XG 1350. I have 114" screen size on painted on cement wall. I want to get to know how to set up the XG before I replace the tubes and convert it to LC. I now know I made the right choice. The picture is stunning on my half ass setup. There is so much control in setup mode that it is a little overwhelming, but I love the challenge. I'm using PS3>Fury2>XG1350 @ 1080P. The picture looks sweet but I notice bands moving up and down the screen when the movie plays. I'm not sure if its the PS3. I have not tried a regular Blue Ray player. I want to get a new input for the XG but don't know which way to go? Fury3, Moome Full HD 1.4 or a used Scaler? Any thoughts?
Dan
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wildchild22
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Not sure what you mean but any 16:9 format be it 1080p 1080i or 720p all reduce the raster size vertically as the crt's are 4X3 format not 16:9.
You get gaps with interlaced called scan lines but progressive you do not get scan lines.
| WanMan wrote: | | Won't running 720P require you to reduce the raster size vertically or have noticeable gaps between the horizontal lines? |
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wildchild22
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If you are running 1080p from a ps3 you have image folder over the only way to fix it is
1) buy scaler lumagen vision hdp minimum or dvdo minimum vp50
2) use a htpc
there is no way to fix the image fold over without the above.
The bands you see are the image folded over on top of itself on the left side. you need to pixels to it so it doesnt fold over.
I would recommend 720p max on a nec xg as 1080i doesnt loook as nice.
I think I have settled on 720p @ 71.92 for film and 720p @ 60 for video.
If you are content with 720p you can get 71.92 using a cheap lumagen dvi.
| Das444 wrote: | Hi,
I just started playing with my XG 1350. I have 114" screen size on painted on cement wall. I want to get to know how to set up the XG before I replace the tubes and convert it to LC. I now know I made the right choice. The picture is stunning on my half ass setup. There is so much control in setup mode that it is a little overwhelming, but I love the challenge. I'm using PS3>Fury2>XG1350 @ 1080P. The picture looks sweet but I notice bands moving up and down the screen when the movie plays. I'm not sure if its the PS3. I have not tried a regular Blue Ray player. I want to get a new input for the XG but don't know which way to go? Fury3, Moome Full HD 1.4 or a used Scaler? Any thoughts?
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Das444
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Wildchild,
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing. I have no image overlap on the sides, top or bottom. I did expect that, but for some reason I don"t have that problem. When I pause the movie the image is rock solid. The best way for me to describe it is when a movie starts it's like when you take video of a TV. The bands follow up and down the screen in sync with the action.
Dan
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wildchild22
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I thought all xg's had image wrap around at 1080p.
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jarseneau
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Wildchild is correct that you will need a scaler or HTPC to get rid of banding at 1080p. Simple enough to check if the banding goes away by switching the resolution to 1080i.
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scir16v
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| wildchild22 wrote: | If you are running 1080p from a ps3 you have image folder over the only way to fix it is
1) buy scaler lumagen vision hdp minimum or dvdo minimum vp50
2) use a htpc
there is no way to fix the image fold over without the above.
The bands you see are the image folded over on top of itself on the left side. you need to pixels to it so it doesnt fold over.
I would recommend 720p max on a nec xg as 1080i doesnt loook as nice.
I think I have settled on 720p @ 71.92 for film and 720p @ 60 for video.
If you are content with 720p you can get 71.92 using a cheap lumagen dvi.
| Das444 wrote: | Hi,
I just started playing with my XG 1350. I have 114" screen size on painted on cement wall. I want to get to know how to set up the XG before I replace the tubes and convert it to LC. I now know I made the right choice. The picture is stunning on my half ass setup. There is so much control in setup mode that it is a little overwhelming, but I love the challenge. I'm using PS3>Fury2>XG1350 @ 1080P. The picture looks sweet but I notice bands moving up and down the screen when the movie plays. I'm not sure if its the PS3. I have not tried a regular Blue Ray player. I want to get a new input for the XG but don't know which way to go? Fury3, Moome Full HD 1.4 or a used Scaler? Any thoughts?
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How can you use a htpc to play a ps3? I didn't think there was any way to feed the signal through a pc.
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Das444
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Jerry,
Yes 1080I is fine. I thought that the bands I was seeing were video noise. I thought image over lap was when I could see 1 full image then a small part on the top,bottom or sides of the screen. Thanks I learned something new today.
Dan
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