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ecrabb
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Great info on all counts! Thanks, guys!!! So, like I thought... Managed is totally unnecessary for home use. I like overdoing things, but in this case, it would be beyond even my typical silliness! 
FedEx just dropped off the Linksys/Cisco box. Not quite like the picture - much more Linksys-branded with just a small Cisco logo on one end of the face place, but overall, it looks like a decent-quality piece for the money. It seems built pretty well, but I think the extended rack ears it came with probably weight almost as much as the switch itself. It does have an internal PSU, so no wall wart - that's nice. So, I'll give it a try and see what happens.
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ecrabb
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Oh, the local guy with the Cisco equipment got back to me... He said he used to set up networks for Nasdaq, NYSE, Reuters, and other firms that traded on those networks. Not sure how he ended up back in small-town Iowa...
From the sound of it, he has a quite a bit of gear to sell and he said he'd give me a deal on a piece or two if I found him buyers for other stuff, so let me know if you want any Cisco equipment and I'll give you his phone number.
SC
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greg_mitch
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WanMan
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Just so that you know, anyone can buy a consumer router to give traffic shaping on IP basis. That 3550 for $300 seems a little suspicious. I would ask the seller for proof of ownership considering what others are selling it for used. Maybe he bought it for an in-home Cisco certification lab and needs money for Xmas, but it could be stolen--and Cisco tracks that.
Do you need a managed Ethernet switch? Heck no. Nor would I recommend one unless you have time to learn networking (could be fun) and have a real need.
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virusc
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if you only need 100mb then a cisco 2950 can be found for <$50 on ebay. they are very reliable. even a 2924 for $10 or less
I have bought many 3550- 24 port or 48 port for <$200 on ebay. remember they have a fan and can be loud though
cisco cannot track 3550 in your internal network. If you do not have a TAC account you will not have legal access to upgraded IOS images but that should be no issue for home use.
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Sparky015
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| akajester wrote: | I've never had problems with linksys stuff, except power adapters dying. I've been told by others they've gone down in quality since partnering with cisco. That's just second hand chit chat though.
EDIT: I thought you were looking for a gigabit switch. sorry. |
I've also been happy with Linksys, but I've had one router power supply fail on me. Interesting mine was not an outlier.
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ecrabb
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OK, here's a new problem, but I'm not sure if it's related to my new switch or not... It's been awhile since I used it and I've switched machines and OS'es, so I can't be sure where the problem lies at this point.
I can't get my PS3 to even see the DLNA server on my OS X box (or vice-versa) no matter what I do. Even with both on the same switch, the PS3 just won't see the DLNA server. I'm using EyeConnect, which is UPnP AV- and DLNA-certified, but I also tried a couple of different servers just to eliminate that as a potential problem. What's weird is the PS3 does see the DirecTV UPnP server.
Do two UPnP devices normally need a router that's UPnP-capable to discover each other? Or, if you put to UPnP devices on a simple switch with static IPs, would they still discover each other? Does anybody know how UPnP devices discover each other?
I hate networking. I know just enough to frustrate the living hell out of myself.
Thanks,
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ecrabb
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OK, so I'm reading the wiki on UPnP...
About device discovery, it says this:
| Quote: | | Given an IP address, the first step in UPnP networking is Discovery. The UPnP discovery protocol, defined in Section 1 of the UPnP Device Architecture, is known as the Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP). When a device is added to the network, SSDP allows that device to advertise its services to control points on the network. Similarly, when a control point is added to the network, SSDP allows that control point to search for devices of interest on the network. The fundamental exchange in both cases is a discovery message containing a few essential specifics about the device or one of its services, for example, its type, identifier, and a pointer to more detailed information. |
A "control point" is the client, so if I'm reading this right, the DLNA server should be advertising its services, but for whatever reason, either it isn't, or the "control point" (in this case, PS3) can't find it when it searches for devices of interest.
I don't see anything that refers to requiring a UPnP-enabled router for functionality (mine isn't, apparently).
Hmmmm... I'm still confused.
My next test will be to put the PS3 and the MacBook on their own private LAN together on an old 5-port switch with static-IPs and see if they can find each other.
SC
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TheVerge
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Should be fine on any switch unless you are blocking the ports. Did you go with one of those ciscos?
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ecrabb
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I went ahead with the $50 100T Cisco/Linksys small business switch... A few hours before Greg posted the gigabit version for $70 or so on Buy.com. 
So, unmanaged.
I wondered about the switch because I did have a weird situation a few years ago... I couldn't get the UPnP discovery process to work right when I had the PS3 on one switch, and a Mac on a different switch connected to the first. That didn't make sense, but when I put the two devices on the same switch, everything worked perfectly.
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greg_mitch
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Not to imply you don't know what you are doing...but does the software have an "activate" feature?
I seem to remember that Tversity had an "on" button you had to push otherwise it wasn't advertising itself as a UPnP server.
Sorry about not posting that sooner SC!
It actually is a 10/100 switch as well with just 2 gig ports....I suppose for linking two switches together??
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WanMan
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| ecrabb wrote: | | I hate networking. I know just enough to frustrate the living hell out of myself. Thanks,SC |
Hahahahahahahahahaha Now that's funny.
Ok, the first thing I am going to ask is if you tried a Windows-based DLNA server?  Ok, ok, ok, I was just teasing. You know enough about networking to know it can be frustrating. And I thought I was going to build the same thing a third time in three days before I decided I'm taking a vacation day and telling my employer how kites are flown.
SC, they are on the same network (IP), right? Have you tried to switch multiple computers to see if one can see the other on this switch? What IP's and subnets are you using?
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I am partial to Cisco as that is what I sell and service, but it is a little expensive. HP has a lifetime warranty as does D-Link. Dell switches are rebadged D-Link as well.
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