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Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

Ok, well as the title states it wont lock onto signals,...always

If I use input A for anything such as PC, xbox, anything thats VGA it works fine.. however when I use my DVI input card for any "normal" components such as my Blu ray and HD DVD player, the XG has a hard time locking onto the signal, it took me 2 hours today to get it to lock on, I had to turn the Blu ray, and the PJ off at the same time, turn the blu ray on let it get to its special point where it sends the signal to the display, and then turn the PJ on at that exact time.

I tried the same method a few times before and it was the only time it would even attempt to lock onto a signal.

Now I dont know if the XG has ever had a card installed and its just the possible dust that I could not see thats causing this? Or if its something else thats having an issue.

If I have to deal with this the way it currently is Ill have to spend an hour or 2 getting ready before I have people over for a movie Sad

Also this is the first time I have used this machine for blu rays and HD DVD, otherwise it was my 360 via Input A..

Any ideas ???

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject:

Bad system board most likely. I spent 3 hours working on 2 of the XG system boards yesterday with no luck, but I do have a working one if you want it. I think it's my last one at this point.

Cheers!

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

so a system board is causing that one problem? the only problem I have with the machine? :\ I suppose its possible, anything is with these babies...

I will mess with it some more tomorrow and see how it works, if its still acting up I may take that offer up, is the system board pricey? (With CRT it usually is Razz

)

jarseneau · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 323 Location: WI

Hey Jeremy, I think I have a solution for your problem. Back when I was using the Moome DVI card, at first I would often get a 'slot [B or C] not available' message. It turned out that you can avoid the problem by turning on things in the same order every time. The correct sequence is: 1. power on the pj, 2. Switch to the DVI slot, 3. Power on your DVI source device last.

If you get stuck with the 'slot not available' message, do the following:
1. Turn off the pj and disconnect power or flip the switch off using the switch near the power cord.
2. Leave it off for a good 10 seconds until you see the indicator lights/display on the pj dim and go out.
3. Pull the DVI card out to disconnect it. You only need to pull it out enough to disconnect it from the slot.
4. Re-insert DVI with no inputs connected.
5. Plug power back in/switch on and turn power on the pj, making sure the initial input in use is slot A or B. If slot C was your default input, change it to slot A for now.
6. Now switching to slot C should work and you will get a 'new input' message (or something similar depending on your version of NEC)
7. Finally, with the source shut off, connect the DVI cable and then power on your source. You should see A green light on the DVI.

MikeEby · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5237 Location: Osceola, Indiana

If your talking about a Moome DVI card, mine never worked right...When it did it had really bad crushed blacks..I just gave up on it..Moome would have probably taken care of it, except for the crushed blacks because there was a fundamental issue with the design causing that problem...I just decided to stick with RGBHV from my HTPC..Way less headaches, no handshake problems either. I would not assume it's an issue with your projector if RGBHV is working ok.

Mike

MikeEby · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5237 Location: Osceola, Indiana

jarseneau · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 323 Location: WI

Thinking about this a bit more, I remember that the order used for disconnection was important, too. IIRC, it was the reverse of the order when connecting: 1. Turn off the source, 2. Switch to input A (may not be necessary), 3. Power off the projector. I had this all worked out via macros on the remote but if someone just flipped off the projector manually with the source going, it would be locked out the next time. (At which point I would be flipping off the pj with my middle finger because I couldn't get the DVI to work Smile

).

OR...
If this is all too much bother, the XG-FullHD card is much better at never getting locked out and has much better video performance as well. As a beta tester for that card, I tried everything I could to get it to lock out and it was nearly impossible. The one way I could get the FullHD card to lock out was by having a DVI card in the same input slot, then replacing it with the FullHD card.

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

Well I thought I'd let everyone know that I found a "way" to get it to lock onto the signal, only requires about 10 minutes (due to slow 1st gen HD DVD and blu ray Smile

), but it works.

I think a moome HDMI is on the xmas list this year Mr. Green

Didn't want to leave anyone hanging Smile

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:29 am Post subject:

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI