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help fitting HD145 lenses on BG808s

 
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akajester



Joined: 09 Jul 2008
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Location: Wisconsin

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: help fitting HD145 lenses on BG808s

So, I bought some HD145's and now the dilemma of how to fit them on my bg808s. The projector is ceiling mounted and I REALLY don't want to take it down. I did some searching and found a way to hack apart the HD8 mounts and glue in the HD145's. Not sure that's such a good idea.

I've seen the Joust adapters but I don't want to invest that kind of cash. Maybe if they're second hand? Also. do those adapters require you to have the projector down?

Someone mentioned a thread with templates you could use to make your own. I can't find those anywhere. I could cut them from plastic possibly if I had the templates. Anyone have copies of those templates one could print out?

Another dumb question. Once I do this, will I need to move my pj forward?

Thanks!

Dale
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Tom.W



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject:

Yes you will have to move your projector or screen about 12 inches closer together. You do not have to pull down the projector to mount the new lenses. Buy the Joust adapters new or used.
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akajester



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Argh, 12 inches. That means I'll need to take it down and move the uni-strut mount closer. yikes... Smile

dale
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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject:

I haven't read through the entire thread, so I'm not sure if its the right one, but from the first post, this seems like the thread I remember that had to do with the plexiglass adapters:
http://72.9.159.100/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=e17436cb7fe3095754eb799c943bc75c&t=497648
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Tom.W



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Are your HD145 lenses color filtered ?
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akajester



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:
I haven't read through the entire thread, so I'm not sure if its the right one, but from the first post, this seems like the thread I remember that had to do with the plexiglass adapters:
http://72.9.159.100/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=e17436cb7fe3095754eb799c943bc75c&t=497648


Thanks, I did read that thread, but found no templates or measurements on how to diy. The originator was a guy from Finland named Bjorn, and I found his website that tells how to do it, but again has no measurements or templates to follow. I suppose when I get the lenses I could just use the base as a guide?

dale
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akajester



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject:

Tom.W wrote:
Are your HD145 lenses color filtered ?


Yes.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Once you try the the new lenses you will never go back to HD8s ! Better overall focus and Reds and Greens will look far more accurate.
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zGman



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:02 am    Post subject:

Actually about 8" less throw distance for HD145's on an 8 foot wide screen.
(it's the 144's that are 12" closer) Best to check with PJ on moveable cart.
Also, the lens to tube spacing is quite important - for an 8' screen the
lens will be very close to the tube face. Hence all the cutting and spacing, etc...

G
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Ile



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject:

akajester wrote:
Thanks, I did read that thread, but found no templates or measurements on how to diy. The originator was a guy from Finland named Bjorn, and I found his website that tells how to do it, but again has no measurements or templates to follow. I suppose when I get the lenses I could just use the base as a guide?

dale
I think that Bjorn posted dimensional drawings to avs, so he probably still have that.
Here's he's email.
http://www.crtht.com/contact.htm


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Tom.W



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject:

Another link ...

http://home.c2i.net/tomcat/lens_project.htm
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akajester



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject:

as always, thanks for the info guys. I'll see what I can find out.

Dale
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nuttall_chris



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject:

Make your own...here's what I did for my Marquee a few years ago, it's almost the same for the BG808;

http://www.curtpalme.com/Marquee_HD144_install2.shtm

Chris.
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Ile



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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject:

nuttall_chris wrote:
Make your own...here's what I did for my Marquee a few years ago, it's almost the same for the BG808;

http://www.curtpalme.com/Marquee_HD144_install2.shtm

Chris.
It's not as simple for 808 that it's for Marquee, problem is that you have to get hd144 base inside original tube/lens frame that is hollow aluminium casting. So it can't be just machined, it need something to hold lenses there also.

If I were making this for myself, I'd investigate if it's possible to make just four small profile clamps per lens and cut holes to original tube/lens frame to get space for these. That should be easiest way I can think of and pretty simple adapters to make.

If this is working it's better than Bjorn adapters, because original Graphics Sheimpflug can still be used.
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akajester



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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:46 pm    Post subject:

I'm getting quotes from a few local shops to have mounting plates cut out of aluminum. Thanks for your help everyone! I'm super excited to get the lenses mounted!

Dale
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akajester



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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject:

HD-145's arrived Friday safe and sound. They look amazing! I can't wait to get the on the pj to see what they can do. Smile

Dale
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Jeremy112



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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject:

I think you will be quite impressed with the HD145s, they blow away HD8s for sharpness, I have a friend whose using a 1272Q with the stock HD8's, he wants my HD6s from my currently non functional 9PG.

Enjoy them Very Happy

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