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Tom.W



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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Just for reference.

http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/BarcoServiceBulletin_R762716_New_EHT.pdf
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wingnut2001



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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject:

Mike, check on R762833 for me as well...very late 1208/e quadrupler
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WTS



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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject:

HI Tom,

Thanks for the bulletin. Interesting it says the second LED - D14- is to tell if the EHT voltage is too high or overvoltage protection. That doesn't sound like a quad failure, hmmm I'm not sure what to make of that, anyone.

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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Either light lit on the EHT board is USUALLY the quad, the splitter second and the EHT a distant third..
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject:

Okay I'll take your word for it as you no doubt have more experience replacing these things and their causes of failure. I think it's just the way they worded the bulletin that makes me think otherwise at first read.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject:

I have a rice crispy quad that actually works sometimes and doesn't shutdown, the outsides of the image start shaking violently and HV pops start after 15 mins of being on, I am also hearing popping at the splitter area, is this normal for a bad quad or are both bad? or could it just be the splitter?

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject:

It could be either. I had a bad HV splitter today as well.
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kal
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject:

WTS wrote:
Hi Mike,

Hmmm I'm at work but off the top of my head I'm going to say the number on the quad is R762717. I'll double check that tonight and get back if it's wrong, thanks. If I'm not mistaken, Curt said anything prior to 1998 should work from a 808, I'm sure about the 1209 series, if they use 34.7K for HV then it should be the same I would think.


That's the right number. Same as mine.

You guys should really check the website. Wink

See: http://www.curtpalme.com/Zenith1200_Layout2.shtm

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WTS



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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject:

Damn, would you look at that, somebody put all the part numbers in a nice orderly fashion to make easy for us to find. Good work Kal, thanks.

Hey who had that 1200 that had problems and wasn't he trying to dump the parts?

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject:

Curt, anyway to diagnose?

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject:

WTS wrote:
Hey who had that 1200 that had problems and wasn't he trying to dump the parts?

Ask Curt - he'd know/remember. I think it was the guy who bought the 3rd 1200 out of the set of 3 (you and I got number 1 and 2).

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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject:

found this info from a barco repair guy:

If you are getting a red LED on the EHT Generator, this indicates an "EHT Hold down". This indicates an EHT failure of some kind. It could be the Quadrupler, the EHT board, the Splitter(unlikely), or a failing crt. Visibly inspect the Quad for any bulges or pregnant spots. This would indicate a bad quad. To check the CRTs, disconnect the CRTs high voltage lead to/from the Splitter, and disconnect its Endstage or RGB Output Amplifier also. Do this for 1 crt at a time, and if the HV or EHT stays up without that crt, then that crt is bad. Be careful that the unit is never powered up without the quad plugged into the Splitter input. Before and After the unit has shut down into EHT hold down, measure the feedback on the Splitter. There is a small coaxial cable that is soldered to the Splitters small sub board. There is a Divide by 1000 circuit on this, and so instead of reading 34,700V DC, we should read about 33 - 35V DC. This is measured at the solder point of this coaxial cables center conductor. If it reads below 33V at startup, the quad is probably at fault. If the quad is not pregnant, it is probably good, but this is not for sure, just likely. If the quad looks okay, and the crts prove not to be the cause, then I would look at the EHT Generator.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject:

wingnut2001 wrote:
Mike, check on R762833 for me as well...very late 1208/e quadrupler


I'm not really familiar with that one. It's the R763368 that I see a lot of. And none of the projectors that I know of are of that series Barco, so that number would not be in any of my parts.
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