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RogerH
Joined: 14 Jul 2010 Posts: 64 Location: Minneapolis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Will edge blanking protect CRT against horizontal overscan? |
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Would it be considered safe to rely on edge blanking to protect the sides of the CRT face from thermal stress due to image/raster overscan?
I am thinking of going to a constant 16 x 9 aspect ratio by creating a second memory that is scaled-up and edge-blanked specifically for 2.40 aspect movies, effectively cropping the sides to keep a constant image height for all movies on my 16 x 9 screen.
My XG-852 is set up closer than spec (intentionally) to the screen and currently has safe margins around the rasters to prevent running off the CRT face. I would have to see where my sides end up on the crt face if I scale a 2.40 movie to fill my screen vertically, but I expect there would be some overrun or at least uncomfortable margin.
It seems that constant aspect ratios have been discussed at length, but I can't seem to find much on the CRT-specific question of relying on edge blanking to protect against potential thermal cracking due to beam runoff. I guess the beam could still be scanning off edge, but I am hoping that if it is blanked there would be no significant heating energy to stress the glass.
My Blu-Ray player (Panasonic BMP-BD85K) seems like it should do this little function for me with the Zoom or Edge Crop functions, which I would think would let me fill the 16x9 screen vertically when showing wider-aspect movies. But these settings seem to make no difference on any movies that I currently have (and the manual says they may have no effect, with no explanation why or when).
Would this be a risky idea?
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virusc
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 358 Location: Massachusetts
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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to a point yes. Their still will be beam current striking close or on tube side surface but at near 0 current. You still could crack tube due to heat and glass expansion though and geometry and convergence components are also overstressed.
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RogerH
Joined: 14 Jul 2010 Posts: 64 Location: Minneapolis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Crap.
I completely forgot about the H convergence and sweep circuits running overboard. I guess that in itself is enough reason to not try it.
Well, I guess I will stay with variable aspect. If and when uneven CRT wear from showing too many wide aspect movies shows up on the 16 x 9 display, I can then decide if constant 2.4:1 aspect is worth it.
Thanks.
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zGman
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 599
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like I recall there was an issue with the tube necks
cracking with over-scan on NEC. They use a very thin
neck which leaves no margin for beam clearance.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you want to do this, anyway? I can't imagine chopping off nearly a full third of the original scope image just to eliminate some black bars. That's a lot of the film frame just gone! It would seriously screw up a lot of really nice scene compositions.
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RogerH
Joined: 14 Jul 2010 Posts: 64 Location: Minneapolis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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I gave away my reason in my followup post above. It comes down to making the best choice of what size/shape/aspect ratio that I want my essentially new tubes to wear. I didn't want to start burning in a 2.35 aspect ratio and decide later that a 16 x 9 might have been better.
With my Faroudja as a source I used to set an average gray level in the black areas of non-16 x 9 material, but it will no longer be in the loop, and I still want to keep the wear uniform.
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virusc
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 358 Location: Massachusetts
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get a video processor that allows you to move image vertically or use raster shift and move the image up and down10% every other movie.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| RogerH wrote: | | I gave away my reason in my followup post above. It comes down to making the best choice of what size/shape/aspect ratio that I want my essentially new tubes to wear. I didn't want to start burning in a 2.35 aspect ratio and decide later that a 16 x 9 might have been better. |
Bah. Unless you watch 90% scope and have your contrast jacked up to blooming, it isn't going to be a problem. If you're reasonable with contrast, calibrate, and watch a variety of material, then by the time you have scope wear that significantly impacts your enjoyment of 1.85 material, you'll be ready for a new projector anyway.
Since I started using my minty G70 about two years ago, I've racked up about 1300-some hours on my machine - almost 150 of which were playing PS3 games. By far, most of the rest of the hours were scope movies - what, 2/3 or so? When I last checked at around 1100 hours, I didn't have the slightest hint of wear - not even on the blue tube.
IMHO, why impact your enjoyment of the films themselves by chopping off a third of the movie, all so you can save wear on the tubes? Doesn't that strike you a little like buying a Corvette, and reprogramming the ECM to use only half the horsepower - just to make the engine last longer?
I say just calibrate the damn thing and use it!
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