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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: Anyone got a WinXP licence for more than 2 processors? |
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Hi Guys,
Did Microsoft ever make an XP licence that works with more than 2 cores?
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Read this. Apparently you can run XP with a QC setup, but the application might not benefit fit, and in some cases, as that thread shows, negatively impacted app performance.
Mind you November 2006 was the first release of QC processors from Intel. Mind you I am not sure of 32/64-bit versions may have made a decision on performance, but M$ also come out shortly thereafter with Vista, which was probably designed in conjunction with Intel QC to take advantage of those benefits.
I think Intel and Microsoft try to keep aligned in their new OS release with Intel new processor generations. But this is all boring stuff and readers really want to know why you are asking.
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I didn't know anyone still used XP.
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i upgraded from vista.
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AnalogRocks
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| MikeEby wrote: | I didn't know anyone still used XP.
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I'm upgrading my Green Machine PC. I was going to go quad core then I noticed my XP licence is only for 1-2 processors. All my video cap cards work with 32bit XP pro properly. Since I own it already and it works I was going to stick with it.
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Actually it seems like a while back Cliffy posted an XP task manager screen cap from his quad core and it showed 4 processors. I think you will need SP3.
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Interesting. Alright where's Cliff?
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Could have been that it was showing 2 of the 4 processors with Hyper Threading which showed up as 2 cores even though it was really just one. It has always been my understand that while it will work it was not optimized for anymore than 2 processors.
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You don't need SP3. An IT friend "gave" me XP when it first released in 2001? SP0. I've since changed machines at least 6 times and never had any issues license wise. I still use XP because I didn't want to downgrade to Vista. Eventually I will go to 7, wait for a few more bugs to get worked out first.
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: | I didn't know anyone still used XP.
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I'm upgrading my Green Machine PC. I was going to go quad core then I noticed my XP licence is only for 1-2 processors. All my video cap cards work with 32bit XP pro properly. Since I own it already and it works I was going to stick with it. |
quad core is 1 processor... the licensing works for physical cpu's, not cores.
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| TheVerge wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: | I didn't know anyone still used XP.
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I'm upgrading my Green Machine PC. I was going to go quad core then I noticed my XP licence is only for 1-2 processors. All my video cap cards work with 32bit XP pro properly. Since I own it already and it works I was going to stick with it. |
quad core is 1 processor... the licensing works for physical cpu's, not cores. |
Yes I understand that. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. What I'm trying to find out is will XP 32 bit see all 4 cores and utilize them?
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Still, I think the theme of concern is the application being designed to take advantage of, or at least not suffer from, the four cores.
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | TheVerge wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: | I didn't know anyone still used XP.
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I'm upgrading my Green Machine PC. I was going to go quad core then I noticed my XP licence is only for 1-2 processors. All my video cap cards work with 32bit XP pro properly. Since I own it already and it works I was going to stick with it. |
quad core is 1 processor... the licensing works for physical cpu's, not cores. |
Yes I understand that. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. What I'm trying to find out is will XP 32 bit see all 4 cores and utilize them? |
Yes it can use all 4 cores. Should be able to use 8 cores(2 quad cores).
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Thanks,
thats what I wanted to know
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Question: What good does it do to increase cores if the application doesn't support it?
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I just want to make it faster. That means a quad core is in order
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I used XP x86 and x64 with my i7 til Windows 7 x64 came out, never had an issue. I did try yhr x86 version but only while waiting for the x64 version to arrive after ordering that, since the rig has 6 gigs of ram x86 XP was wasting 3 gigs of it and it didnt use the tripple channel ram either.
Windows 7 was a substantial step up from XP x64 Edition when i set it all to work at it's best.
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| WanMan wrote: | | Question: What good does it do to increase cores if the application doesn't support it? |
Good question with a simple answer; very little to no good at all.
The application has to be aware of the processors to get the performance increase you might want from multiple cores. Having said that some performance gain can be had even if the application is not aware of the processors above 1 because the operating system will be aware of them and therefore for system related functions may be handled by cores not used by the application.
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | I just want to make it faster. That means a quad core is in order |
I highly recommend the amd quadcores. Very inexpensive and mine has been running flawless using a gigabyte motherboard and win7 32bit. The processor was $99 for a quadcore and the mobo was $75-ish. great combination though. You'll see small performance gains from intel, but easily 2-3 times the expense.
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| akajester wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | I just want to make it faster. That means a quad core is in order |
I highly recommend the amd quadcores. Very inexpensive and mine has been running flawless using a gigabyte motherboard and win7 32bit. The processor was $99 for a quadcore and the mobo was $75-ish. great combination though. You'll see small performance gains from intel, but easily 2-3 times the expense.
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I thought the triple core was the sweet spot. I am running an Athlon II x3 that is pretty fast. I think if I upgraded it would be to the Phenom x3. Unless you are doing something that needs four cores or more and the software can take advantage of it, then I think the better price/performance is x3.
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