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9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a TV
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scottatl



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: 9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a TV

Patient:
• Mike Parker Converted 8500LC to 9500LC
• Re-tubed by Terry
• Setup by Terry
• Ceiling mount
• Beautiful paint job by yours truly (not relevant, but it does look good)
• Tubes look great

Symptoms:
• Remote will power it on
• It is unresponsive to the remote after power on (same with wired remote), will not even listen to power off, requires unplugging to get it off
• No light coming out of any tube
• Fans do work
• I think I hear a little crackle when it powers on
• No LEDs are lit up on the power supply
• The diagnostic lights on the CP are circling, looks like the front lights on KIT from Knight Rider


Treatment so far:
• Reseeded the CP
• Let it run for 24 hours
• One thing I found that sounded like it was possible is File No. TB95-03, half the symptoms fit, with power on being responsive but no other key presses being responsive, but the diagnostic light does not fit. I left the projector on for a day, see if it would work but it did not.
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Nashou66



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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject:

Sounds like the DPB on the CLM(CP) needs to have its U7 Chip cleaned or reseated and possibly remove that board and reseat it back on the CLM.

Also if you have Multimeter read the voltage on the orange battery on the CLM. You can read the pins from the underside of the board. it should be close to 3 volts

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JustGreg



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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject:

OR...I could just come and take that home wrecker off your hands and save your marriage. Mr. Green
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km987654



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Location: Australia

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:00 am    Post subject:

Send marriage to wreckers keep projector!!
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WanMan



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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject:

Now, I've met Scott's wife and she 'seems' like a nice lady. Very Happy That being said, maybe Scott can help us understand "ill wife" and "just get a TV" as points of origination and destination for this thread. Maybe she is just tired of the HT thingy and what she needs is a family room somewhere for the delight of a boob-tube experience.

Keep the projector and the theater room, but stop being a cheap b'tard and buy her a 58" plasma for another room.

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Phil Smith



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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject:

9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a TV

Scott's PJ is ill, not his wife.
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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject:

Guys!


Sounds like the control board.

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Sparky015



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Location: Cleveland / Akron, OH

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject:

yes, I agree. I would try Nash's suggestions. A dead or dieing battery can make the control board do funny things at times.
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scottatl



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject:

I will try some of the fixes tonight. To rub salt in the wound (stay with the ill theme), we have a netflix at home and my wife asked if i wanted to watch it. I told her we can't because it is bluray and our bluray player is in the basement. she was disipointed and said she likes watching on the 42 inch plasma more anyway.

Actually my wife is a good sport, she just trully does not care about HT. a couple of months ago I got an 11 year old Jag convertable, so you know that baby takes some love and care. When things break she always laughs and asks why I just don't spend a little more money and get new stuff, its like the HT all over again.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject:

New stuff!? Where's the fun in that? Besides on day 2 it's used stuff.....
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scottatl



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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject:

cleaning did not work. pulled and cleaned with deoxit. Someone on the Forum has a control board for sale (hopefully it is still available) so I will give that a try next.
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scottatl



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject:

okay, I got a new control board and that is not the issue. Still looks like knight rider on the diagnostics. Any idea on what to pull next?
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Tim in Phoenix



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
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Location: Phoenix

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject:

Hello


Send me your first control board for testing.

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scottatl



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Tim, I will send you both. I may have bent a chip on my original when I was cleaning since the diagnostic lights did not light up after I cleaned them. Pretty typical of my handy work.

thanks.
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draganm



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 8990
Location: Colorado

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a

scottatl wrote:
Symptoms:
• Remote will power it on
• It is unresponsive to the remote after power on (same with wired remote), will not even listen to power off, requires unplugging to get it off
• No light coming out of any tube
• Fans do work
• I think I hear a little crackle when it powers on
• No LEDs are lit up on the power supply
• The diagnostic lights on the CP are circling, looks like the front lights on KIT from Knight Rider


Treatment so far:
• Reseeded the CP
• Let it run for 24 hours
• One thing I found that sounded like it was possible is File No. TB95-03, half the symptoms fit, with power on being responsive but no other key presses being responsive, but the diagnostic light does not fit. I left the projector on for a day, see if it would work but it did not.
I've seen this once before and drove myself nuts looking for the problem and swapping modules. It turned out to be a bad backplane as swapping everything including the motherboard over to a different chasiss/back-plane solved all the problems. I have BP's here you can have for 10 bucks shipping cost but pulling the BP is like pulling the foundation out of a house.
that's assuming your replacement CLM is known working/ good board
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Tim in Phoenix



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a

draganm wrote:
I've seen this once before and drove myself nuts looking for the problem and swapping modules. It turned out to be a bad backplane as swapping everything including the motherboard over to a different chasiss/back-plane solved all the problems. I have BP's here you can have for 10 bucks shipping cost but pulling the BP is like pulling the foundation out of a house.
that's assuming your replacement CLM is known working/ good board



That may be one cause, I have at least one control board here that flashes the leds in my fully working test machine.


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draganm



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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 9500LC ill-Wife using illness to say time to just get a

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
That may be one cause, I have at least one control board here that flashes the leds in my fully working test machine..
sure, this is usually bad DPB but if he bought a second board and it does the same thing? Let us know what you find out
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DB Cooper



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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Location: Ambler, Lancaster PA

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject:

Yep, I had this same problem with my friends 8500 I set up for him and it turned out to be the BP as well. Drove me nuts trying to find out what was going on.
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scottatl



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 113


Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject:

Thanks all I guess I will try the backplane. Can this be done without taking it off the ceiling?

Draganm, I will gratefully accept your BP. I will PM you to get your paypal account email.
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Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 16171
Location: West Seneca NY

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject:

scottatl wrote:
Thanks all I guess I will try the backplane. Can this be done without taking it off the ceiling?

Draganm, I will gratefully accept your BP. I will PM you to get your paypal account email.


To get to the back plane it is an entire disassembly of the PJ. No other way around it. But while your in there a good cleaning of all boards with de natured alcohol is a good idea and also use contact cleaner on all connections(DeOxit). Also while you have access to Belly fans you can clean all dust out of the way.

Athanasios

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