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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| emdawgz1 wrote: | Remember, they are laying the groundwork for a group of other films...
Avengers Initiative
Thor
IM3
Captain America
So there was a lot of housekeeping being done.... |
Understood 100% but that doesn't mean the movie shouldn't stand on it's own. I shouldn't have to pay $10-12 to watch an introduction to 4 other movies. It should stand on its own.
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I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.
The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial!
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Well, if each film is nothing more than to push more product and every bit of the more product is only to push more product then there ain't no f*cking product.
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| emdawgz1 wrote: | I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.
The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial! |
I'm not sure what you guys mean, is it where the broken Capt. America Shield gets used to prop up the particle accelerator?
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| draganm wrote: | | emdawgz1 wrote: | I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.
The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial! |
I'm not sure what you guys mean, is it where the broken Capt. America Shield gets used to prop up the particle accelerator? |
Pepsi, gatorade, audi, sony... those are just some of the commercials i saw in the movie.
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What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. 
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| huggy wrote: | What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out.
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I ran into that with the latest Dr. Who vs. the Daleks. Right at the end as they enter the Tardis to leave there's a ST. John's ambulance sticker on the door to the Tardis. I wonder what the advertisment cost them...
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | huggy wrote: | What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out.
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I ran into that with the latest Dr. Who vs. the Daleks. Right at the end as they enter the Tardis to leave there's a ST. John's ambulance sticker on the door to the Tardis. I wonder what the advertisment cost them... |
Yes watched that episode not long ago and remember distinctly what you're talking about,as I found it odd as well. I hope we don't see the Doctor's favourite candy jelly babies in a plain white paper bag being replaced with a yellow packed of peanut M&M's 
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| huggy wrote: | | What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. |
Weird... See, for me, I hate it when filmmakers have to come up with some wonky generic BS brand of something because they can't use the actual brand... <Jimmy pulls out a pack of his trademark cigarettes - Bento and Henchmen - and carefully slides a cigarette out of the pack> That takes ME out of the film... It's obviously a movie!
OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.
Now, if a scene starts looking like a Pepsi commercial or whatever, well then that sucks.
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| emdawgz1 wrote: | | Pepsi, gatorade, audi, sony... those are just some of the commercials i saw in the movie. |
wierd, I never saw those things. I've either grown numb to the advert's or simply distracted by watching a movie with the unwashed masses. There were thankfully no cell phones going off but at least 2 dozen potty and snack re-fill runs.
I guess I don't care about if there's a Pepsi can or gatorade in a film, just as long as the main character doesn't do something really stupid like wipe hiw brow with an ice cold Pepsi can.
| ecrabb wrote: | OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.
Now, if a scene starts looking like a Pepsi commercial or whatever, well then that sucks.
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I agree, I guess I don't care about if there's a Can of Cola or Gatorade in a film, just as long as the main character doesn't do something really stupid like wipe his sweaty brow with an ice cold Pepsi can.
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| huggy wrote: | What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out.
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But these movies were made the current movie-going generation that was raised from toddler-age on music-less MTv and well brain-washed into an ADD/AHAD condition. So, having a distraction for s few seconds it ok, because it is lost already due to the target audience. Marketing departments get their ads, movie makers get their product placement revenue, worthless movie-goers get their ADD/AHAD movies ... 
But I agree with you on the distractiveness.
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Weird... See, for me, I hate it when filmmakers have to come up with some wonky generic BS brand of something because they can't use the actual brand... <Jimmy pulls out a pack of his trademark cigarettes - Bento and Henchmen - and carefully slides a cigarette out of the pack> That takes ME out of the film... It's obviously a movie!
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There is a difference between real products being placed in a natural form and then again something that appears to blanket the screen in order to deliberately get your attention a la commercial. For instance, someone driving around in a Ford, Dodge, or Caddy is acceptable product placement as there is a perceived need to be driving about. A box of Corn Flakes shoved in your face with people stocking it or handling it in an unnatural fashion in order for full frontal nudity is another story.
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| WanMan wrote: | | There is a difference between real products being placed in a natural form and then again something that appears to blanket the screen in order to deliberately get your attention a la commercial. For instance, someone driving around in a Ford, Dodge, or Caddy is acceptable product placement as there is a perceived need to be driving about. A box of Corn Flakes shoved in your face with people stocking it or handling it in an unnatural fashion in order for full frontal nudity is another story. |
Exactly,this is what annoys the sh*t out of me.
Anyone remember Tropic Thunder? Tivo anyone?
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"The life of a repo man is always intense"
"Lets go get sushi and not pay!"
Repo Man, what a great movie!!! 
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Iron Man II the E-dawg Review |
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| emdawgz1 wrote: | | Even though the digital projector was a kinda washed out. |
What PJ are they using? Alot of those first gen professional 2K DLPs where pretty bad about that--I don't like watching them at all. The local theater I go to has the Sony 4K LCoS machines and they are no worse than film in CR department and actually better in most circumstances.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | huggy wrote: | | What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. |
OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.
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Yep, I'm with you. I have no problem with well executed product placement. Hell, Smokey and the Bandit was a 2 hour commercial for the Trans Am--nobody bitches about that!
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