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Iron Man II the E-dawg Review
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
Remember, they are laying the groundwork for a group of other films...

Avengers Initiative
Thor
IM3
Captain America

So there was a lot of housekeeping being done....

Understood 100% but that doesn't mean the movie shouldn't stand on it's own. I shouldn't have to pay $10-12 to watch an introduction to 4 other movies. It should stand on its own.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject:

I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.

The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial!

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:43 am    Post subject:

Well, if each film is nothing more than to push more product and every bit of the more product is only to push more product then there ain't no f*cking product.
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.

The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial!

I'm not sure what you guys mean, is it where the broken Capt. America Shield gets used to prop up the particle accelerator?
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject:

draganm wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
I agree Kal. But you must remember... Iron man is now officially a Hollywood vehicle. It exists only to push more product.

The thing i found most annoying, was how much BLATANT product placement there was... It was like a 2 hour commercial!

I'm not sure what you guys mean, is it where the broken Capt. America Shield gets used to prop up the particle accelerator?


Pepsi, gatorade, audi, sony... those are just some of the commercials i saw in the movie.

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject:

What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down




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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject:

huggy wrote:
What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down




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I ran into that with the latest Dr. Who vs. the Daleks. Right at the end as they enter the Tardis to leave there's a ST. John's ambulance sticker on the door to the Tardis. I wonder what the advertisment cost them...

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject:

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huggy wrote:
What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down




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I ran into that with the latest Dr. Who vs. the Daleks. Right at the end as they enter the Tardis to leave there's a ST. John's ambulance sticker on the door to the Tardis. I wonder what the advertisment cost them...



Yes watched that episode not long ago and remember distinctly what you're talking about,as I found it odd as well. I hope we don't see the Doctor's favourite candy jelly babies in a plain white paper bag being replaced with a yellow packed of peanut M&M's Rolling Eyes



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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject:

huggy wrote:
What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down

Weird... See, for me, I hate it when filmmakers have to come up with some wonky generic BS brand of something because they can't use the actual brand... <Jimmy pulls out a pack of his trademark cigarettes - Bento and Henchmen - and carefully slides a cigarette out of the pack> That takes ME out of the film... It's obviously a movie!

OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.

Now, if a scene starts looking like a Pepsi commercial or whatever, well then that sucks.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
Pepsi, gatorade, audi, sony... those are just some of the commercials i saw in the movie.
wierd, I never saw those things. I've either grown numb to the advert's or simply distracted by watching a movie with the unwashed masses. There were thankfully no cell phones going off but at least 2 dozen potty and snack re-fill runs.
I guess I don't care about if there's a Pepsi can or gatorade in a film, just as long as the main character doesn't do something really stupid like wipe hiw brow with an ice cold Pepsi can.

ecrabb wrote:
OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.

Now, if a scene starts looking like a Pepsi commercial or whatever, well then that sucks.

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I agree, I guess I don't care about if there's a Can of Cola or Gatorade in a film, just as long as the main character doesn't do something really stupid like wipe his sweaty brow with an ice cold Pepsi can.
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject:

huggy wrote:
What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down
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But these movies were made the current movie-going generation that was raised from toddler-age on music-less MTv and well brain-washed into an ADD/AHAD condition. So, having a distraction for s few seconds it ok, because it is lost already due to the target audience. Marketing departments get their ads, movie makers get their product placement revenue, worthless movie-goers get their ADD/AHAD movies ... Razz

But I agree with you on the distractiveness.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:

Weird... See, for me, I hate it when filmmakers have to come up with some wonky generic BS brand of something because they can't use the actual brand... <Jimmy pulls out a pack of his trademark cigarettes - Bento and Henchmen - and carefully slides a cigarette out of the pack> That takes ME out of the film... It's obviously a movie!



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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject:

There is a difference between real products being placed in a natural form and then again something that appears to blanket the screen in order to deliberately get your attention a la commercial. For instance, someone driving around in a Ford, Dodge, or Caddy is acceptable product placement as there is a perceived need to be driving about. A box of Corn Flakes shoved in your face with people stocking it or handling it in an unnatural fashion in order for full frontal nudity is another story.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject:

WanMan wrote:
There is a difference between real products being placed in a natural form and then again something that appears to blanket the screen in order to deliberately get your attention a la commercial. For instance, someone driving around in a Ford, Dodge, or Caddy is acceptable product placement as there is a perceived need to be driving about. A box of Corn Flakes shoved in your face with people stocking it or handling it in an unnatural fashion in order for full frontal nudity is another story.


Exactly,this is what annoys the sh*t out of me.
Anyone remember Tropic Thunder? Tivo anyone?Rolling Eyes



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"The life of a repo man is always intense"
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Repo Man, what a great movie!!! Thumbs Up

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Iron Man II the E-dawg Review

emdawgz1 wrote:
Even though the digital projector was a kinda washed out.


What PJ are they using? Alot of those first gen professional 2K DLPs where pretty bad about that--I don't like watching them at all. The local theater I go to has the Sony 4K LCoS machines and they are no worse than film in CR department and actually better in most circumstances.

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
huggy wrote:
What I hate about product placement is it's ability to take me out of the zone,it's so damn annoying when your so into a movie/plot/character that you've forgotton about the miserable world we live in and are just lost in the film........only to have a product you're familiar with in the real world pull you right back out. Thumbs Down


OTOH, if the character steals a bag of M&M's or whips out a pack of Camel straights, well, that's real! As long is it's not in your face, I think it's OK.


Yep, I'm with you. I have no problem with well executed product placement. Hell, Smokey and the Bandit was a 2 hour commercial for the Trans Am--nobody bitches about that!

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