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Which Netbook has best video?
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greg_mitch



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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject:

I thought LED was about standard for these but turns out only the nicer ones have it.

Small HDD for putting HD video over on vacation. I would get 250 at least.

Single core, last gen processor.

Not good graphics...probably not capable of playing HD.

No bluetooth. [does that matter to you?]

Windows XP.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:01 am    Post subject:

Do you have time to wait until Computex in June?
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
I thought LED was about standard for these but turns out only the nicer ones have it.

Small HDD for putting HD video over on vacation. I would get 250 at least.

Single core, last gen processor.

Not good graphics...probably not capable of playing HD.

No bluetooth. [does that matter to you?]

Windows XP.


I want Windoze XP, it doesn't need as much horsepower, I don't give a rats arse about blue balls..er tooth. Graphics however, now we got a problem!

I dunno, 160 I could probably empty my SD card at least 10 times there. Each time is 2 hours of 720p video so that would be OK.

Keep in mind I will also be shooting Hi8 ( a boatload ), 6x6, 35mm and the GF will have my Canon G6. One of these times I gotta get an 8x10 camera and some Polaroid film. Mr. Green No need for a dam PC then Thumbs Up

So the 720p camera isn't the primary. It's just for chasing the crabs and lobsters around and fooling around getting a look at the whales underwater ( and, hopefully the iceburgs too ).

Single core, meh, again, I want small, not a hot rod.

BTW her pictures will likely end up on the PS3, which may do what I need in terms of web surfing but may not. Hence the need for the netbook

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject:

You are right about XP not needing much HP. I'm comparing a W7 Pro 64-bit on Core i3 w/8GB RAM to an XP Pro 32-bit on E5400 Dual Core w/2GB RAM and the XP solution is faster loading, opening Internet Explorer and Firefox, etc. Both are RAID-1 solutions using the same drives.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Like I said. Don't need much. I want to surf and maybe watch some streaming video. Has to be small. I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Ok this one looks good with LED back light. Whadaya guys think?

Eee PC 1005HA Seashell

http://commercial.asus.com/product/detail/23


I bought the wife a [url=http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX27309(ME).aspx]1001[/url] last week for mother's day. pretty much the same specs except n450 vs n270. I like it, but truth be told the only reason I bought it is it has an english qwerty keyboard vs. euro-qwerty that every other manufacturer available in Calgary had. All of the netbooks in that $300 range had pretty much identical specs. Note the intel 3150 shared graphics vs. ION though. No HDMI out for the intel.

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.


What about the Fujitsu Lifebook U820 It comes with a 1.6GHz atom z530.

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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject:

helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.


What about the Fujitsu Lifebook U820 It comes with a 1.6GHz atom z530.


Ahhh that must be the newer model. Looks interesting. I'll have to decide by the middle of next week. Hmmmm.....

Please keep the ideas coming. I love Fujitsu's and Panasonic toughbooks.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.


What about the Fujitsu Lifebook U820 It comes with a 1.6GHz atom z530.


Ahhh that must be the newer model. Looks interesting. I'll have to decide by the middle of next week. Hmmmm.....

Please keep the ideas coming. I love Fujitsu's and Panasonic toughbooks.


I spoke with my rep at CDW.ca a few moments after posting that. Apparently the atom model is already eol, but cdw was showing stock.

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject:

helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.


What about the Fujitsu Lifebook U820 It comes with a 1.6GHz atom z530.


Ahhh that must be the newer model. Looks interesting. I'll have to decide by the middle of next week. Hmmmm.....

Please keep the ideas coming. I love Fujitsu's and Panasonic toughbooks.


I spoke with my rep at CDW.ca a few moments after posting that. Apparently the atom model is already eol, but cdw was showing stock.


You know I've been trying to get a hold of someone over at CDW for a couple of weeks. They never answer my email. Who do you deal with over there?

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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
helrazr wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I found a 5.6" with touch screen but it's only got 800MHz proc.


What about the Fujitsu Lifebook U820 It comes with a 1.6GHz atom z530.


Ahhh that must be the newer model. Looks interesting. I'll have to decide by the middle of next week. Hmmmm.....

Please keep the ideas coming. I love Fujitsu's and Panasonic toughbooks.


I spoke with my rep at CDW.ca a few moments after posting that. Apparently the atom model is already eol, but cdw was showing stock.


You know I've been trying to get a hold of someone over at CDW for a couple of weeks. They never answer my email. Who do you deal with over there?


PM incoming

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:38 am    Post subject:

I borrowed an MSI 10" netbook. I HATE IT! Wrols most annoying keyboard ever! I randomly jumps around and erases y typedtext I've alread already typed and ndomly insets test all over the place ARFGGHHH

This goes back and soon!

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject:

Is it really the MSI's fault or your freakishly large [normal sized] hands for netbook keyboards?
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
Is it really the MSI's fault or your freakishly large [normal sized] hands for netbook keyboards? redistributes the text all over the place
ting the touchpad and it randomly

I keep hi

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
greg_mitch wrote:
Is it really the MSI's fault or your freakishly large [normal sized] hands for netbook keyboards? redistributes the text all over the place
ting the touchpad and it randomly

I keep hi


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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
greg_mitch wrote:
Is it really the MSI's fault or your freakishly large [normal sized] hands for netbook keyboards? redistributes the text all over the place
ting the touchpad and it randomly

I keep hi


Laughing


Jeremy must be on the rum again! Laughing
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject:

No rum last night. It's just this netbook.

I really gotta fix my desktop PC soon

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject:

Well I bought a Fujitsu u820 off fleabay for $450. Pretty damned impressed for a Vista SP1 tablet. Definitely not the fastest piece on the planet by any stretch by Garmin mobile PC is nice, built in 3G hardware(this american model has the 3G h/w not sure if the canadian models do or not), dual band atheros wifi card ( I was shocked to see my my 5GHz network listed ready for a connection).

I'll have to see if the Sprint connection manager will allow me to connect to the Telus hspa network here later today. Anyway, screen is bright enouogh to use outside but it does need an anti-glare screen protector as the lil 5.6 inch screen is fairly reflective.

I bought another 6 of them for use as tablets for the municipal census coming up next month at the town that I manage I was so impressed. If I have time I'll do an unbox video when they get here on Monday. As well, I'm going to set this one up with the WHS connector software and see how well it handles streamed video.

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject:

Great let me know. I was very close to pulling the trigger on one last night. Let me know how it handles video. Thumbs Up
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject:

I haven't streamed, I need this image pristine as I am going to clone it on Monday Morning. I'll mess with the MediaSmart software once I've got a good image.

Anyway Media info for The Last episode of the Tudors Season 4 Episode 7 played ok with no modifcations to the system at all straight out of the box and a fresh install of Windows 7 Professional last night. Processor jumped between 30-75% but was in the 30% range for most of the video. I'll try an .mkv remuxed to an .mpg container in a bit:

\The.Tudors.S04E07.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 551 MiB
Duration : 52mn 3s
Overall bit rate : 1 479 Kbps
Writing application : transcode-1.0.4

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 52mn 3s
Bit rate : 1 317 Kbps
Width : 624 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.250
Stream size : 490 MiB (89%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 52mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 55.6 MiB (10%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 24 ms (0.58 video frame)

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