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macgyver655



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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject:

Shoot Curt an email and he can help you out.
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REGNAD



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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:29 am    Post subject:

im working on setting up my g70 on the ceiling. i didnt notice when i had it mocked up on the table but the blue is baddly out of focus on the corners, is this a flapping problem?
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AFryia



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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject:

REGNAD wrote:
im working on setting up my g70 on the ceiling. i didnt notice when i had it mocked up on the table but the blue is baddly out of focus on the corners, is this a flapping problem?

If its two adjacent corners, possibly. Three, less likely but still possible.

Use the phosphor grain technique to find out for sure.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:46 am    Post subject:

phosphor gain technique? is there a thread on that?
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TV/Projector: ECP 4500 (Vidikron box), ECP4500+, wanting 07MS/07MTS, evaluating pc soft-blend

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:06 am    Post subject:

I think the phosphor technique referred to is holy focus thread that seems to have gained quite the reputation. It is on my to-do list this summer. It is a few clicks through here:
http://www.curtpalme.com/Focus_and_Mechanical_Aim1.shtm

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Matt

PS - Good gravy, why am I reading the G70 threads at 1AM -- this CRT sickness is dreadful.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject:

thx, ill read into it. looks like the blue edge focus problem is more on the entire right side as apposed to all corners. we watched a movie last night on it and on bright scenes i now notice a yellowish vertical "stripe" just to the left of center screen. its very distracting now that i noticed it. maybe more tube wear on the green?
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:27 am    Post subject:

ok, i dabbled with the em focus, turns out the blue is out of whack. the flapping didnt do much of anything, though it may be off now! things improved greatly when i started adjusting the em focus. the yellow band is gone and i see how i can actually cause yellow dull spots with these adjustments. i just went by the owners manual to get my feet wet for now. i need to make sure my flapping is correct first now that i fiddled with it. any tips? it doesnt seem to make a bid difference other than shifting the image, not much focus variance....
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:58 pm    Post subject:

REGNAD wrote:
it doesnt seem to make a bid difference other than shifting the image, not much focus variance....

Whoa! slow down a bit! Flapping makes a huge difference you just don't know it yet. Shifted image is a side affect, that is not what it is used for.

Have you had a chance to read Brian Hampton's G70 Guide? It is Guy Kuo's guide written for the G70.

You need to setup all the mechanical aspects before getting too deep into the electronic controls.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject:

yeah i got it printed and plan to go through hopefully tomorrow and set it all up. im sure that i couldnt see much edge focus variance because it was sooo out of focus.
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Diopter_Doctor



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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:25 pm    Post subject:

Anybody here want to get rid of some tubes or boards from their G70?
My convergence board is bad and my tubes are over 7k hrs.
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:06 pm    Post subject:

Some greetings from G70 with vr lenses

Source: PC, MPC, MadVR DXVA --> Sharpness Complex 2 + Nvidea Sharpness 49% --> RGB 16-235 ---> Moome 1.3



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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject:

WOW that looks like a perfect black level Thumbs Up
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject:

How big is the screen? Looks great.
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_in_peace_



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Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Topo.

Its a little to wide, 2m ca.
Better in roof over head i think, than just behind coach.
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Diopter_Doctor



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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:02 pm    Post subject:

OK, G70 community. I have a puzzle to figure out.

Most of my convergence controls do not work. As I change the value on the screen, the physical picture does not change.
For each tube, its the "Sub DY" and "MG Focus" on the tube neck.

I have narrowed it down to only a few possibilities of what is wrong.

So far, I have replaced the D board (Focus), replaced the 2 large convergence chips on the DC board, and have resoldered all connecting pins on both boards.

Possibility #1: Either the connector between the D and DM board or the connector between the DM and MF board is messed up.
Possibility #2: My DC board and EB boards both have total failure of their control functions and is just two separate problems.

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Anyone have any experience with this issue?

Purple: everything works except H. Lin
Green & Orange: none of these controls work



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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:06 am    Post subject:

Diopter_Doctor wrote:
OK, G70 community. I have a puzzle to figure out.

Most of my convergence controls do not work. As I change the value on the screen, the physical picture does not change.
For each tube, its the "Sub DY" and "MG Focus" on the tube neck.

I have narrowed it down to only a few possibilities of what is wrong.

So far, I have replaced the D board (Focus), replaced the 2 large convergence chips on the DC board, and have resoldered all connecting pins on both boards.

Possibility #1: Either the connector between the D and DM board or the connector between the DM and MF board is messed up.
Possibility #2: My DC board and EB boards both have total failure of their control functions and is just two separate problems.

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Anyone have any experience with this issue?

Purple: everything works except H. Lin
Green & Orange: none of these controls work


Clearly, an oscilloscope would be the greatest help here.

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Diopter_Doctor



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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:26 pm    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:

Clearly, an oscilloscope would be the greatest help here.


Any good resources where I could learn about using an o.scope with video equipment? I've used one before and know how they work in general but need a little help knowing what to look for and how to fix a problem.

I just took my G70 apart and made sure the connections were good with continuity check.

Is it possible that it could be a control issue (Ya/Yb boards?) even though the screen shows the values changing without the picture moving?
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:58 am    Post subject:

The idea would be to follow the generated convergence signals by the oscilloscope. Usualy each correction signal is generated separately around the CPU board, then they are summed together. These summed signals are sent to the convergence power amplifier board. An oscilloscope would be helpful in tracking down these signals.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:02 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for your help.

On the service manual it shows a few waveforms to check for but there are many more Test Points that I don't see what value they should be when checked.

I'm looking at the Yb board which contains the CPU chips. I don't see any controls labeled for convergence on the board although it connects to the D board (focus) (those points ARE working) and to the DC board (convergence) (those controls AREN'T working.)



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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:34 pm    Post subject:

The STK392-220 chips are traditionally running re hot, hence they often fail. Isn't a blown fuse or power resistor there on the DC board?
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