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HIER 42ep24s Y SUS REPAIR

 
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stuff12303



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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:49 am    Post subject: HIER 42ep24s Y SUS REPAIR

I just picked up a hier 42ep24s (lg) has sound no pic, i have no bad fuses, from what i read the y sus board is bad, I would like to fix it, any help would be great! I have a solder desolder station, cap wizard, logic probe, and volt meter, where do i start? Why do people replace these boards rather than fix them?
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject:

This is an EDTV. The question should be why do people repair these obsolete displays instead of replacing them. They are disposable. Sorry, I cannot help you.
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stuff12303



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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject:

Ok, I will throw it out as soon as you buy me a new one! Why fix anything? buy a new one!Thanks for the help DOUCH BAG
WanMan wrote:
This is an EDTV. The question should be why do people repair these obsolete displays instead of replacing them. They are disposable. Sorry, I cannot help you.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject:

Hi Stuff' welcome to the forum.

Hang out for a while. Mac will likely pop in and help you.

Thanks for making me laugh this morning with the DOUCH BAG comment Laughing

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stuff12303



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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the welcome, I have been fixing arcade games for about 15 years,crt monitors, and old school pcbs, Just trying some tv repair, picked up this 42" plasma and a 65" hd projection not having great luck so far.
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Hi Stuff' welcome to the forum.

Hang out for a while. Mac will likely pop in and help you.

Thanks for making me laugh this morning with the DOUCH BAG comment Laughing
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject:

stuff12303 wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
Hi Stuff' welcome to the forum.

Hang out for a while. Mac will likely pop in and help you.

Thanks for making me laugh this morning with the DOUCH BAG comment Laughing




Thanks for the welcome, I have been fixing arcade games for about 15 years,crt monitors, and old school pcbs, Just trying some tv repair, picked up this 42" plasma and a 65" hd projection not having great luck so far.



Well, you've some to the right place. There are quite a few techs here, at least one old arcade guy and a whole bunch of propeller heads.

What's the model number of the 65" projection set?

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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject:

its a ws65807 It was dead when i got it, replaced the converg chips and 2 fuses, it now works but has no green signal
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject:

stuff12303 wrote:
its a ws65807 It was dead when i got it, replaced the converg chips and 2 fuses, it now works but has no green signal


Start a new thread on this one. The Mitsubishi's are a great TV.

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject:

Welcome stuff. Pay no mind to Wan, he has been known to be a dbag from time to time. Very Happy He likes poking the snake with a stick, he hasn't figured out yet that we bite back!

As for the LG, I too am getting into plasma repairs, but unfortunately have found that it's cheaper buying used boards on eBay than it is repairing your board. As a guy that makes his living repairing CRT PC boards, I should be the last one recommending this, but with some parts being not available, LG schematics not existing, that's probably the way to go. ONce the set is working, then compare the bad board to the good one, and chances are you'll repair it. Throw it back on eBay and get your money back.

Now, don't be so quick to write off the Ysus board. While they do fail often, most of the 10 LGs I've had here that had no pix at all weren't the Ysus board, and the ones that had bad Ysus boards had some form of image, just not a watchable one.

Macguyver is the right guy to chime in here. He's got way more experience than I do. What I wil[l say though is check all voltages going to the various boards. My LGs all had small printing next to the connectors indicating what the voltage supplies were.

Check for a faint glow of the plasma, indicating that your problem is a processor one, or low level video if it's dead. THat indicates the plasma is firing, and that the Y and Z boards are probably OK. If you get no faint light out of the plasmas, then I'd suspect either a processor or Y or Z board or power supply issue.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject:

Good advice so far. I'll just add to check the fuses on the SUS boards. I want to know if they are blown or not.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject:

Also, does the set stay powered up? Or does it shut down after a bit? Does it have an internal fan? If so, see if it continues to spin, indicating something other than a short. A short somewhere will usually shut down the power supply.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Also, does the set stay powered up? Or does it shut down after a bit? Does it have an internal fan? If so, see if it continues to spin, indicating something other than a short. A short somewhere will usually shut down the power supply.


Curt. Note in his first post he says he has sound but no pic. This would indicate it is not shutting down. It would also indicate that the input is functioning or at least part of it. Then the question of does the menu work come into play. Just some info for ya... Very Happy
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stuff12303



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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Problem fixed! The ribbon cable from the main board to the y sus was loose, how it got that way i have no idea, but i reconnected it and it fired right up, Thanks for everyones input,
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject:

stuff12303 wrote:
Ok, I will throw it out as soon as you buy me a new one! Why fix anything? buy a new one!Thanks for the help DOUCH BAG
WanMan wrote:
This is an EDTV. The question should be why do people repair these obsolete displays instead of replacing them. They are disposable. Sorry, I cannot help you.


LOL...Too funny!

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject:

Damn, I wish they were all that easy! I got in three today to work over. One is pretty easy: The cable TV connector is snapped off. It fires up, menus are OK.

Haven't checked anything else on it or the other two. One is a 36" Sharp Aquos, a late model with two HDMI inputs. I'l bet it's fine, someone just upgraded. Whee!
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject:

stuff12303 wrote:
Ok, I will throw it out as soon as you buy me a new one! Why fix anything? buy a new one!Thanks for the help DOUCH BAG
WanMan wrote:
This is an EDTV. The question should be why do people repair these obsolete displays instead of replacing them. They are disposable. Sorry, I cannot help you.
I said I was sorry, and you call me a DOUCH BAG. Well, at least I know what kind of so called life form you are. Thumbs Up
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:

Haven't checked anything else on it or the other two. One is a 36" Sharp Aquos, a late model with two HDMI inputs. I'l bet it's fine, someone just upgraded. Whee!


If it's anything like the 3+ and counting we've had to replace, it will randomly turn it self on and eventually randomly lose sound.

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