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jkruger



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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: JVC PJ

Found one of these for $600.00. Says it needs a lamp. Has no picture. Buy it?
http://www.projectorcentral.com/jvc_dla-rs1.htm
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject:

Wow, talk about depreciation. It's a nice set, at least the one that I saw at Cliff's. Some convergence and corner brightness issues, the 1209s will smoke it still, but for $600, it's a good deal... if it's the bulb only. Why someone would sell it cheap at this point is beyond me.
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nuttall_chris



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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject:

That's a very good price for an RS1....if it works Smile A new lamp will cost ~$350.

I'd say go for it.

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jkruger



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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject:

The guy is being a little flakey. Avoiding questions about when the bulb went out, what happened.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject:

There ya go. Shipping it from Africa, but he'll cover shipping in the $600.

If you get it, post here, tell me your address, we'll go meet for lunch somewhere, but tragically I'll get 'held up' in traffic...Wink
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jkruger



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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject:

It's either stolen or damaged further than he wants to admit. Tempting but probably a bad idea.
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secstate



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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
It's either stolen or damaged further than he wants to admit. Tempting but probably a bad idea.


On CL, with the exception of CRT deals, if it is too good to be true then it probably is. I would be very tempted for an RS1 at that price but I would not do deal if my instincts said otherwise.
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MikeEby



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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject:

Interesting thread on AVS about an RS1. This one is in Florida...Looks really messed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1185248

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secstate



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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Interesting thread on AVS about an RS1. This one is in Florida...Looks really messed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1185248

Mike


Wow interesting makes you hesitant as to what the "dead" bulb excuse might be covering up.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject:

secstate wrote:
MikeEby wrote:
Interesting thread on AVS about an RS1. This one is in Florida...Looks really messed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1185248

Mike


Wow interesting makes you hesitant as to what the "dead" bulb excuse might be covering up.


Exactly...Might be $600 boat anchor, and not a very good one at that.

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RayJr



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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: JVC PJ

jkruger wrote:
Found one of these for $600.00. Says it needs a lamp. Has no picture. Buy it?
http://www.projectorcentral.com/jvc_dla-rs1.htm


If the unit needs repair....JVC is local in So.Cal...I took my projector there personally when it needed a check up. Smile

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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Interesting thread on AVS about an RS1. This one is in Florida...Looks really messed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1185248

Mike


No offense, Mike but that is just one pj. The bigger problem is that he put it in storage in South Florida. The climate down there can destroy a lot of things just ask Techman. Hell, I read that presbyopia happens quicker in that environment. Anyway, I don't think he opened the pj. It could have been as simple as an insect in the pj.


Sec,
I find CL to be even worse with CRTs. There is a guy in Atlanta that just posted his poor 1272 tubes for $100 a pop or best offer. I think some guys see that they're not moving on ebay, so they figure it might be easier to sell on CL.
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject:

Oh, I forgot to add that I would check the JVC out. Supposedly the JVCs are holding up pretty good. I had a line on a cheap Pearl, but Darin mentioned that problems have surfaced. I may still check it out, but I will probably pass.
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secstate



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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:



Sec,
I find CL to be even worse with CRTs. There is a guy in Atlanta that just posted his poor 1272 tubes for $100 a pop or best offer. I think some guys see that they're not moving on ebay, so they figure it might be easier to sell on CL.


Yeah overpriced c--p for CRTs is a problem on CL but there are also bargains in the CRT land that are less likely to be out right scams. I know several people, myself included who have done very well on CL CRT projector wise. But you are right lots of people have inflated value of their junk on CL.
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secstate



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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:
Oh, I forgot to add that I would check the JVC out. Supposedly the JVCs are holding up pretty good. I had a line on a cheap Pearl, but Darin mentioned that problems have surfaced. I may still check it out, but I will probably pass.


Yeah I saw something on the digital forums over at AVS that said the Sony SXRD projector panels were possibly degrading and causing the contrast ratio to drop overtime or something?
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MikeEby



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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject:

I'm just not sure a used digital is a good value, unless it's super cheap. Panasonic just announced their new 1080p digital with 100,000:1 CR will have a street price of $1999. I would expect the other manufactures to follow. The CR rating is probably overstated I’m sure however the projector is also packed with lots of features for CIH that sound very cool.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=24987&itmname=Panasonic+PT-AE4000U&sid=GAPA&gclid=CNjQ0MK_tZ0CFSANDQodRBlXig

I'm committed to my CRT but when it dies it will be very hard to resist one of these.

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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
I'm just not sure a used digital is a good value, unless it's super cheap. Panasonic just announced their new 1080p digital with 100,000:1 CR will have a street price of $1999. I would expect the other manufactures to follow. The CR rating is probably overstated I’m sure however the projector is also packed with lots of features for CIH that sound very cool.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=24987&itmname=Panasonic+PT-AE4000U&sid=GAPA&gclid=CNjQ0MK_tZ0CFSANDQodRBlXig

I'm committed to my CRT but when it dies it will be very hard to resist one of these.

Mike


What is the difference between this and the AE3000? I would opt for the AE3000 for about 300 cheaper.
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MikeEby



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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
MikeEby wrote:
I'm just not sure a used digital is a good value, unless it's super cheap. Panasonic just announced their new 1080p digital with 100,000:1 CR will have a street price of $1999. I would expect the other manufactures to follow. The CR rating is probably overstated I’m sure however the projector is also packed with lots of features for CIH that sound very cool.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=24987&itmname=Panasonic+PT-AE4000U&sid=GAPA&gclid=CNjQ0MK_tZ0CFSANDQodRBlXig

I'm committed to my CRT but when it dies it will be very hard to resist one of these.

Mike


What is the difference between this and the AE3000? I would opt for the AE3000 for about 300 cheaper.


A higher CR rating, I think the AE3000 is 60000:1...I would sure like to see an A/B comparison....The 4000 has few more bells and whistles on the CIH side and something about the bulb doesn't lose red as fast as the 3000.


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WanMan



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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject:

Mike, you buying into that marketing, are you? Why not allow them to publish and you to buy into 1,000,000:1 contrast since you don't have the means to prove them wrong (ahem, liars)?
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject:

Oh...I agree...I said in my original post the CR is overstated...It seems like PJ companies are claiming wild CR ratings...The red bulb thingy could have some value.

Epson just released one with a 200000:1. It really all depends on how well the dynamic iris is implemented, and if it's noticeable when your watching a movie.

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