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MikeEby
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: Lost Season 1 -- The best transfer I have ever seen. |
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I just finished watching Lost Season One Bluray. It's interesting to see some of JJ Abrams early work and the best transfer of any bluray I have ever seen, truly a joy to watch. The first five minutes of post crash action get you hooked. Some of the story is a bit hokey but IMO very entertaining.
In these days where directors want to create a certain mood by using wierd color effects it was nice to just see something that uses natural colors. IMO these are reference quality disks. I still have a 1:78 screen so it also cool to see it all being used.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: |
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My wife and I have watched Lost since the pilot episode; we got hooked on it immediately. Yes, some of it is hokey, but it's great to actually see some good sci-fi. Instead of a weak story wrapped in a bunch of sci-fi, it's good sci-fi wrapped in a good story. There's good character development, good story arc, interesting sub-plots, and I really like how the writers play with the character time line, though you haven't seen that in full force, yet! 
If you're into good, well-written science fiction and you haven't seen Lost, you should definitely check it out.
Good to hear it looks great on BD... I've just been watching it on local OTA, complete with severe weather watch/warning overlays (in SD), and time-shifted SD because of b-ball games. A few times, I gave up and either downloaded it from iTunes, grabbed the torrent, or if I was really impatient, streamed it off the ABC site... which looks decent on a computer screen, but sucks ass on a projection screen.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Kal, I loved watching season 1. In fact the wife and I watched it twice.  Haven't seen the blurays yet, sounds intriguing.
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I enjoyed True Blood's visuals, but then I roll that way. 
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| kal wrote: | I've been tempted to get this one myself but what holds me back is all the horrible things I've heard about the following seasons.
Maybe it's worth getting for only season 1? |
Kal, that's weird - I haven't heard anybody saying anything bad about subsequent seasons. Everybody I know that has watched it has enjoyed it all. Like everything, it has its ups and downs, but I don't recall a single one of the five seasons of Lost that we didn't thoroughly enjoy. That's in stark contrast to something like The Sopranos, which certainly had a hacker of a season (or two) mixed in with the mostly-good others.
Wan, I don't know what True Blood has to do with this thread, but I tried watching it one night and it looked terrible. I didn't make it 15 minutes. It was like a bad soap opera, with acting almost that bad. I was actually surprised to see it on HBO. I guess I'd be a tough crowd though, because the vampire genre doesn't do a whole lot for me.
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Gino
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I agree SC, I really enjoyed all seasons too, the characters, storyline and acting are really well done and I think that quality had been maintained throughout each season. I bet if you just picked up Season 1 and watched it through you will be ordering the next!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | Wan, I don't know what True Blood has to do with this thread, but I tried watching it one night and it looked terrible. I didn't make it 15 minutes. It was like a bad soap opera, with acting almost that bad. I was actually surprised to see it on HBO. I guess I'd be a tough crowd though, because the vampire genre doesn't do a whole lot for me.
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Funny, I gave "Lost" enough time to finish the plane crash and it went downhill for me. Never did get into it. Every now and again people would rave about it, I'd watch about 10 minutes the next time it was on and change channels. The trailers I watched during other shows made it look more and more desperate as time went on. I guess it's one of those watch every episode or give up deals, like on "Hero's". Tried desperately to keep up with that and failed too. It really bugs me when you have to see every show or you are "lost". I don't dedicate enough time to watching TV to do that.
Drat, meant to watch "Merlin" tonight. That looks promising.
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Every week when Lost is on, we watch it (timeshifted..no ads)...
....And every week I end up crying at the TV..."I'm so completely LOST!!..What the frickin hell is going on???"
I've watched every episode, and I am completely lost.
It's about the only TV I watch these days. Lost and Grand Designs.
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| Mr. Green wrote: | | Funny, I gave "Lost" enough time to finish the plane crash and it went downhill for me. Never did get into it. Every now and again people would rave about it, I'd watch about 10 minutes the next time it was on and change channels. The trailers I watched during other shows made it look more and more desperate as time went on. I guess it's one of those watch every episode or give up deals, like on "Hero's". Tried desperately to keep up with that and failed too. It really bugs me when you have to see every show or you are "lost". I don't dedicate enough time to watching TV to do that. |
That's funny... The plane crash scene in the pilot episode was probably the scene I've disliked most out of all five seasons. I hate unrealistic stuff, and while the plane crash was OK, the aftermath on the beach was completely ridiculous. I hated it. It's a good thing it got better, because it could have lost me.
You definitely MUST see all the Lost episodes... The short synopses they run will help, but they're really not enough.
Because you have to see all the episodes, you also have to DVR it (or torrent it, or stream it...). Regardless, you can't miss episodes. I don't know that it's that much time to "dedicate", though... We're talking an hour a week for all of 4-5 months.
| kal wrote: | | Strange - most people on the forums I've read comments from say it went downhill and all 'strange' after season one. |
Wow, that amazes me. I have several friends who are all into the show, and we all love it. I don't recall a single conversation I've had that had much negative beyond "Wow, my ears have smoke coming from them." or "Hmmm... Last night's episode wasn't quite up to par."
I don't think somebody interested in sci-fi would say it went "strange".
| Mark_A_W wrote: | Every week when Lost is on, we watch it (timeshifted..no ads)...
....And every week I end up crying at the TV..."I'm so completely LOST!!..What the frickin hell is going on???"
I've watched every episode, and I am completely lost. |
This is a legitimate complaint. It's definitely hard to follow, and there are certainly lots of unanswered questions. You also have to think about the story, characters and timeline a lot. It also helps to have friends or family that you can BS with about the show. Personally, I have a couple of friends, and a couple of guys at the office, and we all talk about the show. We love coming in the day after the show and usually spend 15 or 20 minutes just trying to figure some of it out together.
The thing I like about the show so much, are all the themes woven into the fabric of the story line. It's hard to discuss here, because I don't want to spoil it for anybody who wants to try the show, but suffice it to say the writers explore religion, morality, ethics, time/space, good/evil, numerology, destiny... I love that they throw in the odd classic and sci-fi literary and movie references here and there. You can tell the writers are fans of literature and the sci-fi genre specifically. Everything from characters' names to islands... Man, I just can't say much, here...
Here's the thing... Lost is a lot like the text or graphics adventure games of the 80's. If you ever were totally sucked in by the genre - totally riveted to an Apple or Atari playing The Wizard and the Princess or later King's Quest, and you loved the exploratory, puzzle/problem-solving nature of the games, that's exactly what Lost is like. I loved the adventure games, and I love Lost.
If, on the other hand, you want a nice wrap-up, with resolution and answered questions at the end of every episode or season, or you hated the adventure games, Lost is NOT for you. Just like you couldn't jump into one of those games in the middle, you can't jump into Lost in the middle.
The last time I seriously watched or enjoyed a network TV show as much as Lost was X-Files... If that tells you anything about how little I typically enjoy network TV. I also watched The Sopranos and Deadwood, but obviously that doesn't count as "network". X-Files, Sopranos, Deadwood, and now Lost. Those are the only series I've watched religiously.
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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It's not a complaint.
I like being LOST. That's the whole point - that's where the mystery comes from.
But yes, it is a bit masochistic.
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Downhill after Season 1! Are you crazy or hitting Cliff's Vapo?
I think it went from a very good show to a great show. I agree with Crabb that some episodes may not be out of the park, but for me most are at least triples. I would have to think, but this last season almost all of the episodes were great. The first season had some that were somewhat ok like the Charlie drug episode. That was the one episode my best friend and his wife watched that turned them off of the show. If I could show one episode to get someone interested, then it would be the Eko backstory. It is I believe season three, but the story is easily a home run (damn, all this baseball talk and I didn't even turn on the Allstar game:)).
Oh, the plane crash from the first season won a VFX special effects award. Why is that significant? It beat out my best friend for his BSG animation. Of course, he was beaten a second time the following year. He was starting to be referred to as Susan Lucci.
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Spanky Ham
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Crabb,
You might want to check out Dexter. I have only seen a few episodes of Breaking Bad, but that was really good. I have never seen it, but my best friend keeps telling me how great Entourage is.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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We actually watched a few episodes of Dexter. Pretty good, although I didn't get hooked on it.
I might like Entourage - I should check it out. But the whole Hollywood alternate universe/holier-than-thou/ridiculousness that is La La Land kind of pisses me off. Might be funny... I should probably give it a try some time.
The Breaking Bad concept sounds really excellent. I'm definitely going to see if I can find that... Give me something to watch for the summer.
| Quote: | | Breaking Bad follows protagonist Walter White (Bryan Cranston), a chemistry teacher who lives in New Mexico with his wife (Anna Gunn) and teenage son (RJ Mitte) who has cerebral palsy. White is diagnosed with Stage III cancer and given a prognosis of two years left to live. With a new sense of fearlessness based on his medical prognosis, and a desire to secure his family's financial security, White chooses to enter a dangerous world of drugs and crime and ascends to power in this world. The series explores how a fatal diagnosis such as White's releases a typical man from the daily concerns and constraints of normal society and follows his transformation from mild family man to a kingpin of the drug trade. |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Oh, the plane crash from the first season won a VFX special effects award. Why is that significant? It beat out my best friend for his BSG animation. Of course, he was beaten a second time the following year. He was starting to be referred to as Susan Lucci. |
I should clarify, too... I thought the crash sequence itself was very, very good... It was the beach scene right after the crash that bugged the crap out of me. I can overlook a little goofiness or "movie physics" here and there, but this was so over-the-top. One of the aircraft's giant turbofans was sitting there on the beach, RUNNING... Wait, nut just running, but throttled up, for several minutes after the crash. So, it survives a crash, bounces around, lands on the beach, and continues to run. Really? Even in the alternate universe that it could have survived the crash without disintegrating, it wasn't connected to the wing, so there would have been no fuel, and it was just sitting there running, sucking things into it. Come ON!!! Done right, the scene would have been plenty powerful and dramatic without a completely ridiculous technical effect to distract from the real drama of an airliner crash. I don't know why writers and technical directors do that crap.
Susan Lucci... That's really funny.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Another home run:
Lost Season 1 (Buena Vista) Video: 5/5 Audio: 4.5/5
Great sound, great picture, great content from what I've been reading. I"m going to definitely order this one.
It's been added to our BLU-RAY DISC RELEASE LIST & MUST-HAVE TITLES.
| Quote: | The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
I don't often give out 5-star scores for video. 'Lost' is one of the few live action productions that truly deserves it. This is a fantastic picture, the very definition of what a quality high-def viewing experience should be.
Even in its 720p broadcasts on ABC, 'Lost' is easily the best-looking show on television. The Blu-ray's 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 transfer (which retains the 16:9 aspect ratio of the HD broadcasts) takes things to the next level. The image is remarkably sharp and detailed. Every one of Kate's freckles and all the stubble on Jack and Sawyer's faces are visible in perfect clarity. Colors are extraordinarily vivid, especially all those rich greens in the jungle. The contrast range is also crisply delineated at both the high and low ends.
Because the show is a 35mm production, a light veneer of film grain is visible when appropriate. In a couple of shots against the sky, some of the grain may look a little noisy, but these occurrences are very rare. For the most part, it has been well digitized and compressed. Any flaws are so minor that they aren't worth deducting points over.
Since the Blu-ray's release, scattered reports have complained that the First Season is a step down in quality from the previously released Third or Fourth Season box sets. I see no evidence of that. The picture here looks every bit as good as the Third Season Blu-ray, and has none of the artificial sharpening artifacts that plagued the Fourth Season. This is High Definition at its finest.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
Marking a change from the previously-released seasons, 'Lost' switches away from PCM 5.1 format to lossless DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 Surround for this First Season set. The results are every bit as good. 'Lost' is also one of the best-sounding shows on television, and the lossless track captures everything from the subtle nuances of quiet dialogue scenes to the roar of polar bears and thunder of gunshots.
For a TV production, the show's sound mix is surprisingly dynamic and immersive. Bass slams with precision when needed. The surround channels, although rarely overtly showy, are frequently utilized for ambient jungle atmospheric sounds. They're also put to more aggressive use at times, such as every appearance of the "monster."
Fidelity is excellent across the board. Michael Giacchino's score is rich and resonant. This television show has better sound design than many feature films, and the Blu-ray does it full justice.
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| kal wrote: | | Great sound, great picture, great content from what I've been reading. I"m going to definitely order this one. |
Prepare to be sucked in, Kal! FYI, you have until after the first of the year to get caught up to us so you can watch it live and finish off the series with all the rest of the "Lost heads".
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | | kal wrote: | | Great sound, great picture, great content from what I've been reading. I"m going to definitely order this one. |
Prepare to be sucked in, Kal! FYI, you have until after the first of the year to get caught up to us so you can watch it live and finish off the series with all the rest of the "Lost heads". |
Nah, I'm hoping to watch it recorded. Our satellite provider compresses the CRAP out of everything so much that it's a macroblocking mess most of the time. I watch hardly any TV anymore even though we have an HD-PVR.
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