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tvless
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: Sorry for this stupid question... I am a bit ashamed 2ask... |
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Sorry for this stupid question... I am a newbie with less than a month experience....I am a bit ashamed 2 ask but ingnorance is temporarily and stupidity is forever....
As a result that I have way too many VCR movies in my home... I need your advise:
Can I bring into my Sony CRT S-video input card a direct signal from a VCR RCA output by just buying an S-video-to-RCA adaptor? What I mean is if I can bypass the X-blaster conversion....
by common sense I am assuming the VCR RCA output signal is really analog or poor compared to S-video and Composite that I am succesfully using with my current setup...
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I have a Sony CRT VPH 1251Q connected to my digital equipment via KDS X-Blaster Composite to VGA Transponder.. al works just GREAT, except I am not sure how to bring the signal from a regular RCA from my VCR into either the X-blaster or the S-video input card directly at the CRT Sony VPH.... ( I know I am asking something very basic but I am new in this planet of CRT's and video signals)....
Just for reference, I basically bring/convert my Xbox, DVD, and HDTV from Composite or S-video to VGA...
Please forgive my ignorance...
your desperate 2 learn friend...
TvLess
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perisoft
Joined: 29 Aug 2007
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Oh my god... the first thing is to NEVER USE COMPOSITE OR S-VIDEO. Never never nevernever. If you have a device which can only output composite, put it in the trash. If you have media which can only be used in a device which can only output composite, put THAT in the trash too.
Hooking a 360 or an HDTV receiver up via composite is like putting your Ferrari on bicycle tires. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NONONONONO!!!!!!
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Curt Palme
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Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. 
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stefuel
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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| Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
So that's what you're doing with all those skin-flicks you bought off fleabay 
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Loudmouse
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
I'm going through this hell now with about 200 bootleg rock concert videos. I may not ever watch some of them, but if I don't transfer them now I know the old tapes won't last much longer and will go away forever.
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tvless
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Location: Ontario
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: Please put one apart for me Curt... |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
I will buy one scaler from you Curt, just PM me with the cost and S&H for Windsor Ontario< I can pay via paypal or VISA...
I was not aware...the picture is very decent the way I have it setup...but I pay to see I am wrong...
Thank you guys !! A "scaler" it is....
TvLess
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CRT_Ben
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 1684
Location: Northern Virginia
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Please put one apart for me Curt... |
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| tvless wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
I will buy one scaler from you Curt, just PM me with the cost and S&H for Windsor Ontario< I can pay via paypal or VISA...
I was not aware...the picture is very decent the way I have it setup...but I pay to see I am wrong...
Thank you guys !! A "scaler" it is....
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A scaler will make standard definition better but it cannot create extra resolution out of thin air. If you don't have any high definition sources already, get some (cable/satellite, Blu-ray, or HDDVD on the cheap) and you will be blown away. Life is too short to watch crappy standard definition on these wonderful projectors
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tvless
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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Location: Ontario
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Please put one apart for me Curt... |
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| CRT_Ben wrote: | | tvless wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
I will buy one scaler from you Curt, just PM me with the cost and S&H for Windsor Ontario< I can pay via paypal or VISA...
I was not aware...the picture is very decent the way I have it setup...but I pay to see I am wrong...
Thank you guys !! A "scaler" it is....
TvLess |
A scaler will make standard definition better but it cannot create extra resolution out of thin air. If you don't have any high definition sources already, get some (cable/satellite, Blu-ray, or HDDVD on the cheap) and you will be blown away. Life is too short to watch crappy standard definition on these wonderful projectors |
CRT Ben,
This is the equipment I have so far, remember it is not a cheap hobby, so this is the best I can do for now:
-Sony CRT VPH 1251Q
-KDS X-Blaster Composite to VGA Transponder
-Pioneer CX-4000 Sound System
-Xbox
-Xbox 360 Elite
-PS1
-Fortec Star satellite Receiver w/True Free 2 Air
-APEX Digital HD TV Module Converter
-Neustat Satellite FTA Receiver
-Multiple Computers
If the scaler can improve the satellite and the X-box Elite, I would be happier...I am happy already to be honest....
TvLess
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CRT_Ben
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Location: Northern Virginia
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Please put one apart for me Curt... |
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| tvless wrote: | CRT Ben,
This is the equipment I have so far, remember it is not a cheap hobby, so this is the best I can do for now:
-Sony CRT VPH 1251Q
-KDS X-Blaster Composite to VGA Transponder
-Pioneer CX-4000 Sound System
-Xbox
-Xbox 360 Elite
-PS1
-Fortec Star satellite Receiver w/True Free 2 Air
-APEX Digital HD TV Module Converter
-Neustat Satellite FTA Receiver
-Multiple Computers
If the scaler can improve the satellite and the X-box Elite, I would be happier...I am happy already to be honest....
TvLess |
The scaler will not improve the X360. The 360 already outputs HD, or it should if you set it to. I'm trying to remember but I think you can get the xbox to output 1080i over VGA, that's what you should be doing if you aren't already.
Since you already have the xbox - get on ebay or craigslist and pick up the HD-DVD drive for a song. Then, start buying movies from Amazon etc, you can get HDDVD's for much less than 10 bucks! Cheaper than a cup of starbucks 
Presto, you have HD-disk capability and a few brand new movies for less than $50. Set it to 1080i and you will be floored.
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AnalogRocks
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Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 26706
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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Even a doubler will improve things. I watched Stevey Ray Vaughan (sp ) on VHS through my Sony 1271/Faroudja 3000 doubler via a S-VHS VCR and it was good. I recommend the scaller or at the very least a doubler.
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Sorry for this stupid question... I am a bit ashamed 2as |
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| tvless wrote: | Sorry for this stupid question... I am a newbie with less than a month experience....I am a bit ashamed 2 ask but ingnorance is temporarily and stupidity is forever....
As a result that I have way too many VCR movies in my home... I need your advise:
Can I bring into my Sony CRT S-video input card a direct signal from a VCR RCA output by just buying an S-video-to-RCA adaptor? What I mean is if I can bypass the X-blaster conversion....
by common sense I am assuming the VCR RCA output signal is really analog or poor compared to S-video and Composite that I am succesfully using with my current setup...
Reference:
I have a Sony CRT VPH 1251Q connected to my digital equipment via KDS X-Blaster Composite to VGA Transponder.. al works just GREAT, except I am not sure how to bring the signal from a regular RCA from my VCR into either the X-blaster or the S-video input card directly at the CRT Sony VPH.... ( I know I am asking something very basic but I am new in this planet of CRT's and video signals)....
Just for reference, I basically bring/convert my Xbox, DVD, and HDTV from Composite or S-video to VGA...
Please forgive my ignorance...
your desperate 2 learn friend...
TvLess |
This is NOT a stupid question !
I have several S VHS copies of laser discs from around 1995 and many are not available even on DVD let alone HD. The scaler should help.
The only stupid thing is to assume you know the answer BEFORE you ask the question...... 
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stefuel
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Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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There is no such thing as a "stupid question". There is however answers from me that....
BTW Tom, did you ever finish your C program?
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Tom.W
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Everything but the projector.... Bought a TSU 2000 cheap
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stefuel
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| Tom.W wrote: | | Everything but the projector.... Bought a TSU 2000 cheap |
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tvless
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: Thank you guys !!! |
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I will talk to my boss (the wife) to see if I can borrow money from "my" paycheck and buy a scaller... I tougth by converting composite via KDS Transponder to Component passthrough suffied..I see am wrong... still, to be honest, I have a very very sharp image in my unit, its tubes are like 1600 hrs only... and very well aligned (not sure abbout the focus as I did it myself with the help of my ANALOG camera 300x zoom lenses)....
In addition to 400 DVDs I also have like 600 VCR's.... but believe it or not, we always used a 27" TV before start using this projector a month ago, when I got if free from a very good friend....
TvLess
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tvless
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| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: l.ast but NOT least,,,, |
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I was able to activate the RCA video signal in this old and very sharpy VHP-1251q Pr by just putting a BNC to RCA adaptor, now I can see all my Videos in either DVD, Computer , X-box 360 or,,,, or,,,, VCR/VHS format,,,,, for me up to now 420p and 720p look amazing, but the CRT I have, even when it is a really old unit, has CRTs Tubes with 1600 hours only, and that propabily makes a big deference in the output,,,,,, so the answer was in that adaptor I just mentioned, happy reading to all, I did find out the answer by keep reading all the related post in this website,,,, I am so excited,
Keep reading to lear newbies like me, we will get there soon, in 3-4 years,,,,. hahahaahaaha
TvLess 
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RobertMfromLI
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
Another similar option to Curt's "Otherwise" is to get a DVD/VCR combo. Not an "el-cheapo" DVD Player/VCR combo, but a decent one that burns direct to DVD from VHS or cable. They are not that expensive. Mine has all sorts of outputs, including digital, HD, digital audio, composite RCA and s-Video. It allows time recording to DVD from cable/antenna, as well as record, stop record, record, finalize for DVD burning (allowing one to record at different times till the DVD is filled before finalizing). I think I paid $160 total.
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tvless
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: that sounds great man !!! |
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| RobertMfromLI wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | You CAN do it, but as Peri says, the pix quality will be poor.
What you want to do is connect a scaler between the composite output and the RGBHV input of the projector. I've just got a bunch of high end scalers in (Runco) that I'll be listing in the buy/sell section probably later today or tomorrow. Pricing should be reasonable.
Otherwise, get a DVD burner with a video card, and burn your VHS tapes to DVD. I'm doing that now with stuff I know I'll never watch, but of well. Nothing like an impressive collection of burned DVDs on your shelf. |
Another similar option to Curt's "Otherwise" is to get a DVD/VCR combo. Not an "el-cheapo" DVD Player/VCR combo, but a decent one that burns direct to DVD from VHS or cable. They are not that expensive. Mine has all sorts of outputs, including digital, HD, digital audio, composite RCA and s-Video. It allows time recording to DVD from cable/antenna, as well as record, stop record, record, finalize for DVD burning (allowing one to record at different times till the DVD is filled before finalizing). I think I paid $160 total. |
I hope CHristmas be good to me this year,,,, I have way too many option to spend it with this new hobbie,,,,, before 30 days ago, I never watch movies or TV, with the new CRT that has changed, it gets me worried about my wallet,,,,, hahahahha
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