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kal
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whats6x7
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Just ordered 2 by following that link. 1 to hopefully cure my Dell Vista laptop and 1 to play with at home. I hate vista, I hate Vista, I HATE VISTA.
I love both my Macs though. 
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garyfritz
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I notice it says you have to have Pro to run "many existing XP productivity applications." Vista runs everything I've tried just fine. Wonder what the Win7 issue is?
Vista's more of a pig than XP (big surprise), but other than that I haven't really minded it. I turned off a lot of the useless eye candy and for the most part it's work great for me.
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secstate
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| kal wrote: | Thanks Tim!
The XP mode in Windows 7 should be interesting ...
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Just keep in mind that this feature requires CPU virtualizational support so some CPUs will not support it. Most relatively modern AMDs should but Intel has been less generous with their inclusion of this feature.
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secstate
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| garyfritz wrote: | I notice it says you have to have Pro to run "many existing XP productivity applications." Vista runs everything I've tried just fine. Wonder what the Win7 issue is?
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Anything that runs of Vista should run on Win7. I think the reference is to the "virtualized" XP that is included in some editions of Win7. That would allow you to run legacy programs that didn't run on either Vista or Win7. Essentially it is an XP virtual machine running within Win7.
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secstate
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You might also want to make sure you understand all the upgrade ins and outs. MS really makes things complicated. For example you can not upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Home Premium. It does appear you will be able to do a fresh install with this upgrade disc using the Vista "trick" of installing the OS twice. First time you install it but don't activate it, next you "upgrade" it by reinstalling Vista /Win7 over the previous unactivated clean install and activate it this time. That is what is reported of course the proof will be in October when this is released.
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papalek
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I have been running Win7 now since February and it works great. I did a clean install on a machine I built 5 years ago. It is the first time I have not had to have ANY of the driver disk in order to install a operating system.
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MikeEby
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I've been running the Beta on my HTPC for 5 months or so...It's great, flawless playback for Blu-ray /w PDVD and rock solid. I've got RC1 running on a ripping machine and it works well also. This weekend I'll be updating the HTPC to RC1 as the Beta has a time bomb to shut down after 2 hours.
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Gino
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bummer... US only
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secstate
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| papalek wrote: | | I have been running Win7 now since February and it works great. I did a clean install on a machine I built 5 years ago. It is the first time I have not had to have ANY of the driver disk in order to install a operating system. |
Linux has been like that for years. But I still use Windows for HTPCs but pretty much Ubuntu and Debian Linux every place else. Once you get over the learning curve (and it is steep at first for a guy who used MS-DOS/Windows for 20 years) Linux is really great to use especially not having to worry about malware (relatively speaking). I am tempted by this upgrade but Vista works ok for my HTPC and since I pretty much launch a video and watch it the performance improvement in Win7 is not really something I need.
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ecrabb
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Windows 7... aka Vista Service Pack 3.
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Mark_A_W
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I'm playing with Win7 now.
But due to a bug with Catalyst (display manager missing), I can't get interlaced resolutions running 
Otherwise it seems quite nice - when idle it's idle...not like Vista.
So yes, bummer about US only.
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MikeEby
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | I'm playing with Win7 now.
But due to a bug with Catalyst (display manager missing), I can't get interlaced resolutions running
Otherwise it seems quite nice - when idle it's idle...not like Vista.
So yes, bummer about US only. |
Are you using Powerstrip?.... And an ATI card?
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Yes.
The ATi CCC is missing the display manager in Win7. So you can't set it to 1080i 30hz, which is the first step to a custom interlaced res.
That all said, I tried 1080p 48hz, and using the particular setup I like (Zoom Player on the secondary monitor, madVR Renderer and Reclock), playback is woefully jerky, with or without Aero.
I've just wiped it. It's too early.
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MikeEby
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | Yes.
The ATi CCC is missing the display manager in Win7. So you can't set it to 1080i 30hz, which is the first step to a custom interlaced res.
That all said, I tried 1080p 48hz, and using the particular setup I like (Zoom Player on the secondary monitor, madVR Renderer and Reclock), playback is woefully jerky, with or without Aero.
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Did you create and install a Monitor.inf file. Here is the one for my 1351.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Windows 7... aka Vista Service Pack 3.
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OSX Snow Leopard...aka OSX Service Pack 6.
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| MikeEby wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | Windows 7... aka Vista Service Pack 3.
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OSX Snow Leopard...aka OSX Service Pack 6.
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The difference being, Apple took a really nice, stable, easy, fun, productive, slick, beautiful operating system and improved on it. Microsoft . . .
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Mr. Green
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The easy thing with any new microsoft product. Wait a year. Let all the upgrade nuts get all pi$$ed off at it and tell them what to fix. In a year most of the bugs are worked out and you have a nice OS. I've only had a Vista machine for 10 months and I have yet to find anything that makes it go buggy. My "XP home edition" crashed way more often and needed patch after patch. So far I like Vista. I agree with SC... probaby just rebadging Vista to lose the stigma.
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| MikeEby wrote: | | Mark_A_W wrote: | Yes.
The ATi CCC is missing the display manager in Win7. So you can't set it to 1080i 30hz, which is the first step to a custom interlaced res.
That all said, I tried 1080p 48hz, and using the particular setup I like (Zoom Player on the secondary monitor, madVR Renderer and Reclock), playback is woefully jerky, with or without Aero.
I've just wiped it. It's too early. |
Did you create and install a Monitor.inf file. Here is the one for my 1351.
Mike |
I already have a similar one. That's allows you to go past 1600*1200.
It doesn't help get interlacing working.
You need an older Catalyst version to turn on 1080i.
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