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freak1
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | "since storing harddisks that are not running is risky bussiness (spinup and spindown in different climates is very very tough on the drives) , I have a dedicated server running"
bull****.
I will not run a PC 24/7 on the off chance I want to watch something.
So all of my hard drives spin up and down when the PC wakes for use, and then goes back to sleep. I've been running this way for years, currently have 16 drives in a number of PCs (8 x 150GB crap ones I got for free), and NONE of them have failed (touch wood). Most of them are in removable racks with fans so they are always cool.
That's a load of FUD. And you are wasting god awful amounts of power.
Also, backed up media data is not mission critical data (like the family photos), it DOESN'T MATTER if you do lose a drive, it's just entertainment. And of course you have the originals don't you! |
even though we risk going off-topic, some of the points deserve an answer;
as stated in my original reply, my server does not only do media sharing. yes running 24 1tb disks on a huge server is strange if only for media sharing. that's a big waste of energy since my server is actually using around 710 watts @ 220 volts. as stated, I also run a lot of virtual servers on that machine which I need for work (at this moment approx 15 servers are running) which actually saves me loads of energy.
regarding the storing of disks:
yes, spinning down unused hard disk certainly do increase the hard disk lifespan.
no better cooling does NOT improve the disk lifespan contrary to popular believe. (running at 100 degrees celsius isn't goot either  )
what is killing harddisks is storing a harddisk for longer periods of time in room a with a temperature of 17 degrees celsius and a high humidity, then taking the disk out of the room, do not allow the disk to get used to the new environment, and immediatly being put in a hot dense place like the inside of a pc or mediacenter.
sudden drastic changes in the harddisks environment causes the disks to fail. that was all I was stating. spinning disks up and down to consume power (so 10 minutes of inactivity causes a spindown, for instance during the night), will lead to a longer disk life. totally agree with you on that one.
everyone has it's own needs, and needs it's own setup. if your current setup works for you, that's great. I was just stating what I was running and why.
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stefuel
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"even though we risk going off-topic, some of the points deserve an answer;"
How do you go "off topic" in a thread that's already "off topic" for the crt forum  You are talking to the king of off topic.
As far as I'm concearned, anything that has to do with saving or displaying media or large breasts is on topic
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three guns=more fun!!
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3 guns I'll give 'er number 1
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stefuel
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OK so I have a couple of server questions. I have tried to save a couple of std dvd's to my PC and using tversity, converted them to a file that the PS3 can read. That seems to work fine as long as I remember to turn on the PC.
I assume to make this work, I would need a BD drive in my PC and software to allow BD copying to the PC/server in a format that the PS3 can use. I have never messed with a server or NAS device so I'll be starting the learning curve from scratch.
1. Can a commercial server like the one Heywood describes in a earlier post be remotely turned on/off. The only time I need it running is when I would be copying files to it or when the PS3 is on to play movies. I'd like to turn it on/off as part of the macro that brings the whole theater to life.
2. How long does it take to copy the average BD to a hdd? Does it take the same amount of time as to view it? My BD collection ia small at this time but think it will still take a bit of time to transfer them all. Once cought up, it shouldn't be to bad if I do them, one at a time as soon as I buy them.
3. Will the audio/video quality be the same coming from the server as long as the PS3 is still the player?
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Mark_A_W
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1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN
2. 45mins or so to convert to another format (such as .MKV with FLAC audio, but you will have to find the right format for the PS3).
3. Yes, if you convert it losslessly. It certainly is for the mkv files I create for playback on a PC.
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stefuel
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Now I have to see if my Crestron controller can send the required packets out it's LAN port to do it.
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nuttall_chris
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The PS3 won't play VC1 encoded video, regardless of the container (MKV, M2TS, etc) so converting to H264 will be required for ~30% of all bluray disks. This process will take many hours even on a fast PC. My quad core computer will do an average length disk in about 18 hours if you keep the quality level where you would want it.
I don't consider the PS3 to be a viable method for streaming bluray at this point as the lack of VC1 support is a major problem. I am using my HTPC exclusivly at this point but am strongly considering getting a Network Media Tank device, specifically the EGreat EG-M34A
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MikeEby
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| nuttall_chris wrote: | I am using my HTPC exclusivly at this point but am strongly considering getting a Network Media Tank device, specifically the EGreat EG-M34A
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That does look decent depending on the software. The PopcornHour seemed like a good value when it priced at $179. Now at $215 + hard drive cost, its getting much closer to cost of a PC. Then add the cost of a Moome or Fury2 and your at the cost of a low end HTPC. The PC I can send the projector RGBHV and be done with it. Can your PS3 do custom resolutions and refresh rates or are you pretty much tied to 60Hz judder.
The interface in Windows Media Center (Windows 7) is very slick. IMO with a remote every bit as easy to use as a PS3. Forget all the crap about a modern PC's being unstable, its pure horse sh*t. The people that say that have not seen a newer Vista or Windows 7 HTPC.
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| MikeEby wrote: | | nuttall_chris wrote: | I am using my HTPC exclusivly at this point but am strongly considering getting a Network Media Tank device, specifically the EGreat EG-M34A
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That does look decent depending on the software. The PopcornHour seemed like a good value when it priced at $179. Now at $215 + hard drive cost, its getting much closer to cost of a PC. Then add the cost of a Moome or Fury2 and your at the cost of a low end HTPC. The PC I can send the projector RGBHV and be done with it. Can your PS3 do custom resolutions and refresh rates or are you pretty much tied to 60Hz judder.
The interface in Windows Media Center (Windows 7) is very slick. IMO with a remote every bit as easy to use as a PS3. Forget all the crap about a modern PC's being unstable, its pure horse sh*t. The people that say that have not seen a newer Vista or Windows 7 HTPC.
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Agreed the Media Center interface is very slick but it won't nativly play Bluray. You have to set it up to use PowerDVD or some other player to play the content.
I know you can get it to play Bluray converted to MKV but I don't think you can get it to play FLAC audio at this point and I know that DTSMA is not supported at this point in Media Center.
I'm waiting on the Slyplayer with an integration tool to used in Media Center then I will be happy.
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MikeEby
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| nuttall_chris wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: | | nuttall_chris wrote: | I am using my HTPC exclusivly at this point but am strongly considering getting a Network Media Tank device, specifically the EGreat EG-M34A
Chris. |
That does look decent depending on the software. The PopcornHour seemed like a good value when it priced at $179. Now at $215 + hard drive cost, its getting much closer to cost of a PC. Then add the cost of a Moome or Fury2 and your at the cost of a low end HTPC. The PC I can send the projector RGBHV and be done with it. Can your PS3 do custom resolutions and refresh rates or are you pretty much tied to 60Hz judder.
The interface in Windows Media Center (Windows 7) is very slick. IMO with a remote every bit as easy to use as a PS3. Forget all the crap about a modern PC's being unstable, its pure horse sh*t. The people that say that have not seen a newer Vista or Windows 7 HTPC.
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Agreed the Media Center interface is very slick but it won't nativly play Bluray. You have to set it up to use PowerDVD or some other player to play the content.
I know you can get it to play Bluray converted to MKV but I don't think you can get it to play FLAC audio at this point and I know that DTSMA is not supported at this point in Media Center.
I'm waiting on the Slyplayer with an integration tool to used in Media Center then I will be happy.
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PDVD 9 inside WMC seems to work without issue on Windows 7 (32 Bit). Yes, Slyplayer will be nice...Lets hope those guys can pull it off...If anyone can they could.
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nuttall_chris
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PDVD 9 inside WMC seems to work without issue on Windows 7 (32 Bit). Yes, Slyplayer will be nice...Lets hope those guys can pull it off...If anyone can they could.
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Does PDVD9 actually open when used with Windows 7 and WMC or does the video appear to be played directly within the WMC interface?
With Vista and PDVD 7.3, PDVD is opened by WMC and the movie is played within the PDVD interface.
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MikeEby
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| nuttall_chris wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: |
PDVD 9 inside WMC seems to work without issue on Windows 7 (32 Bit). Yes, Slyplayer will be nice...Lets hope those guys can pull it off...If anyone can they could.
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Does PDVD9 actually open when used with Windows 7 and WMC or does the video appear to be played directly within the WMC interface?
With Vista and PDVD 7.3, PDVD is opened by WMC and the movie is played within the PDVD interface.
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It shows up as an Icon inside WMC you launch it and play the BD. The interface while not exactly WMC looks very much like it and is integrated pretty well. Seems to use whatever audio settings you have set outside in PowerDVD.
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stefuel
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This is starting to sound like a road trip and not a quick drive down town for a ice cream.
I'm not sure I'm up for a road trip. 
Perhaps I'll give Sony a little more time to get their $hit together.
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