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best choice? HDMI and DVI to RGB from multiple sources

 
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Crabman



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: best choice? HDMI and DVI to RGB from multiple sources

I have a satellite receiver, a cable box, an HD-DVD player, and a Bluray player, and VGA out from PC.

I also have an Extron 8 channel switcher with BNC connectors to feed the PJ.

I had a Moome card in my XG-852, but for some reason my PJ refuses to recognize it anymore and I am tired of screwing with it and want to watch the damn thing.

So based on what I said above, what are my best options? HD fury? EXT-Fullhd? What seems to be the least costly?

I don't have any interest in component for the PJ because while it works on the XG, it's really jittery on many sources, but RGB is perfect.

Please help guys I want to quit messing around with this and WATCH WATCH WATCH!

Clay

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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject:

i'd get four HDFury and convert from HDMI on the sat, the cable, the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray to RGB and run all of them, plus the PC output into the switcher using DB-15 to BNC cables. then run a single BNC from the switcher to the XG.
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k.berger



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject:

What do you do for sound? If you don't have it already, I would suggest for you to get one of those inexpensive HDMI-capable receivers (Onkyo comes to mind). Depending on your BD player's capability of decoding looseless audio, select the one that can handle it appropriately (either accepting MLPCM, or decoding bitstream).
It will serve as HDMI switcher for video (make sure it has enough inputs, of course Laughing ).
Put HD Fury behind the Receiver. As for PC, you can either use Extron to switch between IT and HD Fury output, or install new HDMI or DVI video card in it, and run it through Receiver together with everything else, eliminating Extron altogether.

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Crabman



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject:

k.berger wrote:
What do you do for sound? If you don't have it already, I would suggest for you to get one of those inexpensive HDMI-capable receivers (Onkyo comes to mind). Depending on your BD player's capability of decoding looseless audio, select the one that can handle it appropriately (either accepting MLPCM, or decoding bitstream).
It will serve as HDMI switcher for video (make sure it has enough inputs, of course Laughing ).
Put HD Fury behind the Receiver. As for PC, you can either use Extron to switch between IT and HD Fury output, or install new HDMI or DVI video card in it, and run it through Receiver together with everything else, eliminating Extron altogether.

Kris


I hadn't considered audio. I have a nice Pioneer unit, although no HDMI or DVI video on it. I don't want to get rid of that.

I'm thinking initially going with a smart hdmi switcher into an HDfury, then to the Extron for now. Does the HDfury seperate the Audio? Digital Audio?
I'm a little confused.

Clay

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jkruger



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject:

replace the video card in the pc and put a fury at the projector. run the sound thru the pioneer and the video thru a hdmi switcher.
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Crabman



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
replace the video card in the pc and put a fury at the projector. run the sound thru the pioneer and the video thru a hdmi switcher.


That doesn't sound like a bad option. How far can an HDMI signal run? 15+ feet?

Thanks guys!

Clay

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jkruger



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject:

I'm running about 20 feet. The monoprice #3660 will do what you want quite well. 15 ft long.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024004&p_id=3660&seq=1&format=2

You must use the power supply with the hdfury at this length.
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k.berger



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
replace the video card in the pc and put a fury at the projector. run the sound thru the pioneer and the video thru a hdmi switcher.


I agree, I would get rid of Extron. Simpler path is always better, and Extron is known for negatively affecting signal on occasion. Proposed configuration would solve this issue.
If you have programmable/learning remote, you don't even need "smart" switch (may not even work reliably, depending on connected devices). Even inexpensive monoprice.com switch comes with IR remote. I used to have one, and operated it using Pronto (with macros transparently incorporating switching sources).
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jkruger



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject:

For a switcher I am using the 4x2 (dual output) version of this:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=4088&seq=1&format=2

This one has five inputs:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5081&seq=1&format=2
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stefuel



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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject:

I have done what he suggests by using one Fury on the output of a multi-HDMI switcher. It works but there is a lag time when switching from one device to another. I think it has to do with HDCP (checking for compliancey) thing. I plan on buying another Fury for each device. That way they are always playing nice and switch fast.
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