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NEC Guru's... Help me Fire up the beast!!!!!
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emdawgz1



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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: NEC Guru's... Help me Fire up the beast!!!!!

Gentlemen...@ approx 6pm eastern, i will attempt (again) to get a picture displayed in my NEC XG. I could never get the input to accept the right ..... damned if i know i just couldnt get a picture. So today i have the elements in place...

1. a computer at my old (new )spot...w/ itnernet

2. My ps3

3. My denon upscaling dvd player.

4. My nec moome dvi card

5. HD fury w/ the appropriate cabes

6. a camera to upload pics of exactly whats happenin'

So, can i get a bit of assistance, to get this thing fired up??? I recorded the Talledega race yesterday and that Crash scene.. in HD on the big screen..... Mr. Green


THANX!!!!!

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject:

Wait...so what is the question?

Do you need help with cabling? Setup? Error codes?
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
Wait...so what is the question?

Do you need help with cabling? Setup? Error codes?


This one never gave me an error, i just could never get the pj to accept the input... but when i get home i'll take pics of EVERYTHING and see what goes...

Thanks

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject:

1) Kindling
2) Newspaper
3) Lighter fluid
4) Long match.



Smile

Sorry, what was the question? Wink
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emdawgz1



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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
1) Kindling
2) Newspaper
3) Lighter fluid
4) Long match.



Smile

Sorry, what was the question? Wink


C'mon Curt....

I want to finally see a picture projected thru this thing.

I'm going to setup my Denon DVD player, hdmi out to the dvi input on the hd fury, rgbhv into the pj.

I could never find the right input to get a projected picture...


I need assistance...

Help me Obi Curt Kenobi.... you're my only hope!

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Wait before you turn it on you need to modify the hell out of it. We could probably jet Gary M. over to your place...He's the NEC expert.

Seriously....I would try 1080i first...Using the component input on the Moome DVI. My Moome DVI never really worked right, it always seemed flakey, the component input works fine.

It won't scale DVD in that mode but at least you should get a stable source. Then onces you prove the set works then tackle HDMI/DVI.

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emdawgz1



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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Wait before you turn it on you need to modify the hell out of it. We could problably jet Gary M. over to your place...He's the NEC expert.

Seriously....I would try 1080i first...Using the component input on the Moome DVI. My Moome DVI never really worked right, it always seemed flakey, the component input works fine.

It won't scale DVD in that mode but at least you should get a stable source. Then ones you prove the set works then tackel HDMI/DVI.

Mike


First.... What did i ever do to you????

Second.....I'll give it a try, when i get home, i leave work in about an hour.

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Does the XG work as normal with a RGBHV input (say from a PC)?

Is this an XG problem or a Moome problem?



If it's a Moome problem...well...where's my 50ft pole?....


Why people use DVI/HDMI is beyond me, I've tried twice and run screaming back to RGBHV both times. DVI/HDMI didn't look any better....when it worked. What a PITA.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject:

Mark_A_W wrote:
Does the XG work as normal with a RGBHV input (say from a PC)?

Is this an XG problem or a Moome problem?



If it's a Moome problem...well...where's my 50ft pole?....


Why people use DVI/HDMI is beyond me, I've tried twice and run screaming back to RGBHV both times. DVI/HDMI didn't look any better....when it worked. What a PITA.


Mark is right...Your first try should be with RGBHV and a PC if you have a break out cable.

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject:

First things first, I thought this was a question on another forum I'm on and responded to already. I use the same avatar as curt has up right now in another forum that looks that same.


And second, have you tried to at least see if the PJ will display by hooking in an s-video source.

And are you sure you've setup up other inputs????
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Hey, is Gary turning into our token avs 'raster'? Haha!

THe guys are right, run an RGBHV signal intp the set first. Follow the 'definitive' setup guide on the main site, which I wrote while setting up an XG. Once a picture locks (which it should right away), then feel free to play with teh Fury and the HDMI signal.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject:

ok guys here goes...

i connected my dvd player to the moome card rgb, i selected the input 2 and i get all 3 crt's lit and a message saying...
"New input!!!"


Confused

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject:

also i have "snow" on all 3 guns...
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:27 am    Post subject:

ARe you running the HDMI cable? If so, switch to component to keep everything analog for now.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject:

If you are running at a resolution that hasn't been input into the projector you need to set up a new input for that resolution.

I need to look at my remote to tell you how to do it but under a menu I thought it was called signal entry. Call it whatever resolution you are running and then proceed to set up the signal using the setup guide.

WE NEED PICTURES!!!!
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
If you are running at a resolution that hasn't been input into the projector you need to set up a new input for that resolution.

I need to look at my remote to tell you how to do it but under a menu I thought it was called signal entry. Call it whatever resolution you are running and then proceed to set up the signal using the setup guide.

WE NEED PICTURES!!!!


I'm stupid... i left my usb cable for the camera @ my apt..... Embarassed

So i'll pic it up tomorrow... i'll read the manual about signal input.

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject:

Ok... i'm going home tonight and making another attempt... I will flash some pics so's youse guys can see what gives...
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject:

Don't test an unknown projector with HDMI..
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
Ok... i'm going home tonight and making another attempt... I will flash some pics so's youse guys can see what gives...


I agree with everybody else.

Start with the VGA-BNC cable and run straight from the computer first. Get a signal the projector can lock easily to, do a set up.

Once you have a good setup running with that, then you can run HDMI. My NEC hated the HDMI hookup first. Mine wouldn't lock to anything until I went to an old laptop and did a setup with 800 x 600 resolution (using the VGA-BCN cable). Once I had that locked in, it got better and better.

Your moome card might not be working also. Try using the VGA-BNC cable to see if you can at least get an image. If you can using the BNC connectors, then it might be the moome card.

Good luck. Keep us posted! Thumbs Up

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Mark_A_W wrote:
Don't test an unknown projector with HDMI..
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