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draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

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dturco · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

Well the internet was down for 2 days...... but I can not get the 9500 lined up/converged . So far I have the p/j 118" from the screen. Diagonal measurements from the screen are 128" left side 127 and 3/4" right side. All measurements are to the center of green lens. Bottom of screen is level with the bottom of green lense. I know this is not in the right spot as lens should be in the middle of screen for perfection, but it will do for now as I am just trying to get a picture to the screen not a dialed in one.

I have used the internal menu of the 9500 and all of the material posted here in this thread so far.

1] The on screen menu will not drop out to allow me to see the raster grid on the tube face. How do I do that?

2] I have shifted the red and blue side to side and I can see the grid move behind the menu and have line up the edges.

3 ]The picture that is displayed is 3 distinct images 1 green 1 blue 1 red overlapping .Like a deck of cards fanned out.

4] Image is from a sony 550 blu-ray through the moome card older version, set to 1080i. That did display a good, not perfect image during demo.

5] On the sony menu the BD DATA BD ROM image is overlayed vertically and off to the left.

6 This 9500 worked fine in the previous install. I do not know if it was dropped before I picked it up I hope not and do not think so. But who knows?

I have re-initialized 9500 to start from scratch.

Is this just my noob showing or is there something else afoot?

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

dturco · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:

Atanasios,

hit mute while it is up, it might hide it for you like it does in the Service color temp menu section >> Will do.

Ok , you mean centered with relation to the tube face edges, right?>>> I loosened the bolts and pushed/ pulled lenses to align the grid edges that I could see from behind the OSD

This is normal and it now needs to be converged you know you do the convergance after you do all the moving of the grids and grid sizes right? >>>>I read Draganm's post and grids looked good

, and you do the toe in of the actual lense's? >>>> I don't even know what How to? Is this the top and side bolts described in the mechanical menu?

You did use the onscreen mechanical set up after initialization right?>>> Yes

this is where you make all the grids the same size and line them up mechanically before you do any electronic convergence or geometry >>>>>>Draganm's post covered this I think as above.

Sorry for all this nonsense. and a sincere thank you for helping me.

Dave

dturco · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject:

O.K. I found a loose wire that went to the back of the blue tube. The wire came from under the red tube connecting to a board up in front of the P/J. The wire was black with a blue shrink tubing on it that connected to a pin on the blue tube. I removed the shield from the green tube to see where another wire that originated from the same place went on the green. Once reconnected the picture shifted to an almost viewable image .It is still terrible, but at least it is now one image.

So I am trying to set it up again but I still can not get the mechanical guided on screen menu to drop out while trying to view the tube to do the raster image. Also the red tube is pushed as far towards the green as it will go but will not line up the grids for convergence.

So how do I Confused

Mute does nothing. Red goes no further. WTF Rolling Eyes

dturco · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:14 am Post subject:

DOAH!!

The red tube/lens 7/16" bolt was stripped now that it is loose I have moved the lens and have a picture still terrible but getting closer.

Still can't get the menu to drop for raster.I look in the tube and see a grid with a big black square in the middle.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Oh in the mechanical set up guide the menu stays there, you should only see it on the green. You dont have to see the whole grid on the green to center it just the edges. Keep them equal distance from each corner. If you see the menu on the red then you have the video cables mixed up.

Athanasios

dturco · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:30 am Post subject:

Mr. Green · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:

dturco · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:07 am Post subject:

O.K. I do not feel silly. No matter what setting the blu-ray is on 480i all the way to 1080p on HDMI the menu is on all 3 tubes. On Component/YPbPr (Analog, 480i to 1080p) that menu [box no words on red & blue] will not come off all 3 tubes. This is going through a moome card older version. I am getting close but since can not see the grids I just can't get it.

I can not think of a way to do this. I have tried to put up the blu-ray menu and align the lenes with just the icons as guide but can't get them to be all in sync. I have the side covers off, the top off, and can see the tubes moving in the chassis when the front screws are adjusted but not good enough.

Seriously frustrated Mad

Dave

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Is there a way you can take pics? Are you doing the mechancal set up with no source connected? its best to do it that way. then after you have mechanical set up you go to convergance, then do geometry, then add the source.

Athanasios

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

dturco · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject:

Wow Dave, you've managed to completely hose a simple set-up on the simplest CRT ever made, that deserves some kind of prize

Hooray!!!! What do I win a free Razz