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| zaphod wrote: | | whats6x7 wrote: | | Journey to the Far Side of the Sun. That's when I really started to like SciFi. |
great movie. picked it up on LD a year or so back (only available in the format  ) and it still stands the test of time. Garry and Sylvia Anderson really knew how to write good stuff without the puppets... i have the series UFO on dvd, but it won't play on any of my players... sigh. |
So I can't see this. Man I was hoping to pick-up something cool 
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great thread. The "fear factor" seems to be a big element of successful sci-fi so I would go with:
Metropolis
The day the earth stood still
Solaris.... the original one
Blade runner
Aliens
These cover a lot of ground but depending on what you consider Modern they each set a standard for their era IMHO:
Metropolis is fantastic, when you consider when it was made and what else was showing in theaters it is decades before its time.
The day the Earth.... what can you say 1950s sci-fi rocks!
Solaris was so much better of a movie idea than 2001 and it is a great example of psychological sci-fi
Blade runner just stands up- sci-fi meets cinema noir with some Shakespearean tragedy and a taste of what CG could do for movies. Big atmosphere and not just fear.
Alien(s), the best slimy, dripping, eating machine, Aliens all owe a thank you to Geiger and this movie, when Aliens came out I went back a bunch of times partially to watch the audience reaction..on a big screen this is the first and best of the modern slimy bug movies.
Sorry man, I just can't pick one....
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He has some other classics too..."Plan 9 from outer space" a rep cinema classic.
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| dturco wrote: | | zaphod wrote: | | whats6x7 wrote: | | Journey to the Far Side of the Sun. That's when I really started to like SciFi. |
great movie. picked it up on LD a year or so back (only available in the format ) and it still stands the test of time. Garry and Sylvia Anderson really knew how to write good stuff without the puppets... i have the series UFO on dvd, but it won't play on any of my players... sigh. |
So I can't see this. Man I was hoping to pick-up something cool |
Netflix has it on DVD so it must still be available.
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Keep the movies rolling in.
Thanks everyone.
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| whats6x7 wrote: | | dturco wrote: | | zaphod wrote: | | whats6x7 wrote: | | Journey to the Far Side of the Sun. That's when I really started to like SciFi. |
great movie. picked it up on LD a year or so back (only available in the format ) and it still stands the test of time. Garry and Sylvia Anderson really knew how to write good stuff without the puppets... i have the series UFO on dvd, but it won't play on any of my players... sigh. |
So I can't see this. Man I was hoping to pick-up something cool |
Netflix has it on DVD so it must still be available. |
excellent! my list of movies "only on LD" is getting smaller - perhaps one day i can ditch the beast
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O.K. I just order the following blu-rays {via amazon link} Journey To The Far Side Of The Sun,
A Clock Work Orange. [ Only $9.00 A/R]
And Dve Video Essentials to set up
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Wonder if this Bluray transfer of Clockwork' is better than the HDDVD?
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I'll let you know but I never saw the hd version or dvd for that matter. Only over the air sd.
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Last time I watched it was on Betamax IIRC. Although I think I caught a bit on Showcase a few weeks ago too.
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heh heh beta.
I bought my first video deck in 84 it was a betamax. Because as we all now beta was better. The first movie however I am ashamed to say was prince's Purple Rain Because Apolonia had a great nude scene.
Cut me some slack I was 17. 
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| dturco wrote: | heh heh beta.
I bought my first video deck in 84 it was a betamax. Because as we all now beta was better. The first movie however I am ashamed to say was prince's Purple Rain Because Apolonia had a great nude scene.
Cut me some slack I was 17. |
Yep I still have around 5 Beta decks here. Hmmm my fist Beta movie. We rented, it was Popeye with Robin Williams. I think around 1981 or so.
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| jask wrote: | great thread. The "fear factor" seems to be a big element of successful sci-fi so I would go with:
Metropolis
The day the earth stood still
Solaris.... the original one
Blade runner
Aliens
These cover a lot of ground but depending on what you consider Modern they each set a standard for their era IMHO:
Metropolis is fantastic, when you consider when it was made and what else was showing in theaters it is decades before its time.
The day the Earth.... what can you say 1950s sci-fi rocks!
Solaris was so much better of a movie idea than 2001 and it is a great example of psychological sci-fi
Blade runner just stands up- sci-fi meets cinema noir with some Shakespearean tragedy and a taste of what CG could do for movies. Big atmosphere and not just fear.
Alien(s), the best slimy, dripping, eating machine, Aliens all owe a thank you to Geiger and this movie, when Aliens came out I went back a bunch of times partially to watch the audience reaction..on a big screen this is the first and best of the modern slimy bug movies.
Sorry man, I just can't pick one.... |
When you say "Solaris.... the original one", I think you mean Solyaris, which I have not seen. But, I am intrigued by your assertion it was better than 2001. Haven not seen the original film, I'd ask if you have and compared the two.
When it comes to science fiction and the fear factor, I am still going to go with my '1st impression' of a movie in which I experienced fear and it was 'science fiction'. That film was The Andromeda Strain. This was the first time I discovered the concept of an enemy that you could not see with the naked eye.
Heck, The Andromeda Strain scared me more than anything else in life. I was such a coward at that age. 
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| garyfritz wrote: | | I think Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" (1927) would have to be one of the earliest, if not the earliest... |
Yes, most certainly. One that is quoted the most. Completely ahead of its time.
| MikeEby wrote: | | What I consider modern would have to be 2001 a Space Odyssey (1968) or Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) anything before that the special effects were sort of ho-hum. |
I would give a big nod to those two as well. They were ground-breaking movies (for the time) that made people forget they were watching people holding puppets or models on strings.
They may look dated by today's standards but at the time they were nothing short of ground-breaking. Today many people (like my wife who still curses me that she'll never get that 2 hours of her life back) find that 2001 moves at a snail's pace because they're used to wizz-bang effects. Back in the late 60's when it was released, watching the docking sequence go on for many minutes was supposedly pretty cool since nothing like that had ever been shown up on the silver screen before.
Being born in 1969 the first one that really affected me and made me go "wow" was Star Wars Ep 4 (1977).
| MikeEby wrote: | | The true gran-daddy would be this: "Le voyage dans la lune" (A Trip to the Moon) Circa 1902. Never seen it. |
It's pretty short and worth seeing. Or watch the last episode from the great HBO miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon". It's a back and forth between Tom Hanks playing the director (Georges Méliès) creating the movie and the Apollo 17 mission.
I'd also have to a nod to Tron (1982) because I was a child of the video game generation and it was one of (if not the biggest movie) to go 100% CGI.
Jeremy mentioned seeing biplanes in Metropolis. Nothing dates a move more than something like technology out of place or strange clothes/hair styles. A good example is Logan's Run from 1976 complete with silver disco outfits and Farah Fawcett with her feathered hair.
One movie that doesn't look or feel old even today despite being made in 1982 is Blade Runner. It's really stood the test of time. Ok, there are a few computer-esk scenes that look a bit odd but the environment and city just looks and feels right. The sort of future you'd probably expect to see, not some uber-shiny future without trash where everything looks new like you see in many of the other older SciFi movies.
Good thread!
Kal
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Metropolis was a notable film for many reasons. I think we spent all week on that film alone in on of my Art History classes. Besides being one of the earliest examples of what would become the science fiction genre, it's also one of the most outstanding examples of the modernist movement, and used architecture extensively as a backdrop. I still love urban dystopian films to this day! Up with hopelessness! 
Hey Kal - Not to split hairs, but TRON was nowhere near 100% CGI. There was a LOT of compositing and hand rotoscoping in that film... Beyond the obvious "real world" live action shots, in "computer world" the people and their suits were shot with black/white film stock and hand-rotoscoped to add all the fluorescent lighting effects, then that was composited with the then-groundbreaking CGI background mattes.
TRON is one of my all-time favorite sci-fi films... It totally takes me back to being a pre-teen and reminds of my imagination and early fascination with computers. Awesome music, incredible images... I can't WAIT until the new movie comes out, and I can't wait until the old one is out on BD. I'm not sure if I've ever been as giddy with anticipation about a new movie coming out as I am about the new TRON. I hope I'm not disappointed.
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| Quote: | | I'd also have to a nod to Tron (1982) |
An interesting fact; the blond girl in Tron was Lacy Underall from Caddy Shack.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | Hey Kal - Not to split hairs, but TRON was nowhere near 100% CGI. There was a LOT of compositing and hand rotoscoping in that film... Beyond the obvious "real world" live action shots, in "computer world" the people and their suits were shot with black/white film stock and hand-rotoscoped to add all the fluorescent lighting effects, then that was composited with the then-groundbreaking CGI background mattes. |
You're right! (Of course)! I should have said it was the first (if not the first) to use computer graphics extensively.... (not 100% CGI of course)!
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| kal wrote: | | You're right! (Of course)! I should have said it was the first (if not the first) to use computer graphics extensively.... (not 100% CGI of course)! |
Definitely the first to use CG anywhere near that extensively. Nothing like that had been done previously.
It's unbelievable to me how they were able to make those gorgeous computer graphics and put them on film. I mean, we have far more power in the phones in our pocket than those computers had back then, but they made these beautiful moving images.
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Certainly a lot was rotoscoped, but significant parts were pure CGI: the lightcycles, the tanks, the "recognizer" doodads... All pretty crude by today's standards but way cool at the time. Remember, this was 4 years before Luxo Jr. came out at Siggraph. The state of the art WAS crude by today's standards.
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