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benareeno
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: mkv's and minor tearing...fixed! |
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All I had to do was enable aero in Vista...tearing is gone.
It wasn't even that bad to begin with, but it was there....
I'll say it again...I'm loving these mkv's!
Now...my next step is to try and get that app from avs to do a custom gamma ramp as well as multi-point greyscale adjustment...and it's free!
This means that my $300 pc will do 47.952 Hz or 71.928...apply custom gamma (as opposed to the gamma boost transcoders), and possibly grey scale correction. Times have really changed...I really hate(d) HTPC's, but I am having trouble hating them now!
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huggy
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Hehehe.....I hear you man.......I've recently sold all my source's,processor and transcoders etc..etc and had a HTPC built.I've been ripping blu since........MKV's rock 
THe custom Gamma curve that I have now was THE biggest improvement I have noticed when watching movies to date.I previously had the vp50,box 1020 and hdfury performing the task however,custom gamma is in another league,I now have perfect low level detail and FFTB WITH NO COMPROMISE
I'm not p.c savvy at all so I have a lot to learn but am enjoying the challenge.
Regarding Tearing though,I've only noticed this on one movie Alvin and the Chipmonks,it was pretty evident along with lip sync issues,will try what you suggested.Thanks
Dave
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greg_mitch
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Please explain the $300 pc again? Vista is over $100.
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benareeno
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You can get a brand new Acer pc with Vista for $300...
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| benareeno wrote: | | You can get a brand new Acer pc with Vista for $300... |
That will play Blu-ray?
What about the BD drive? What about software? Video card?
I'd love to see somebody do a comprehensive "dirt cheapest way to play BD/HD, but not using crappy open-source software". In other words, how cheaply can you buy or build a Windows a box to play BD's, still have a nice UI w/IR remote, and get 48/72hz?
I'm not that interested in ripping (though it would be nice), but I'd love to play with different res/refresh... But, I will absolutely not compromise on the UI. It has to function like a set-top box. I don't want to touch a mouse or keyboard if I don't have to.
That's gotta be closer to $600-700, doesn't it?
SC
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benareeno
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I guess I could add a BD player...for $100 or so. I don't even care to though...and I suspect that playing Blu-Rays might result in the odd hiccup etc. But make a Blu-Ray into an mkv, and it plays great.
The crappy open source player is probably the best player....very light weight, which I love. It simply plays the movie through your chosen decoders....no other unnecessary features. But I doubt it meets your requirements for a set top box level of ease. There are always a few mouse clicks involved.
MKV's are great because they hold the video and audio...that's it. No menu's, extras or other crap that I could care less about. But, this is me...others would be devestated to lose their menu's etc...
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ecrabb
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Still... The $300 Acer w/Vista will play 1080p ripped MKV's? That's pretty cool. In addition to the $100 for a BD drive, I'd also need an HDMI PCIe video card, so there's another $60, and I'd need some sort of USB IR dongle/remote for another what, $50? I'd be looking at over $500. Damn, already way more than a PS3...
How are you ripping the BD's? Do you have a different box with a BD drive in it?
When I can slap a machine together for the same or cheaper than a PS3, it'll be worth it to me to try playing with the custom resolutions and refreshes. I'm not even that worried about menus and extras, but I don't want to have to screw around with ripping just to watch, and I don't want to deal with a mouse and keyboard when I want to sit down and watch a movie. I want to walk into the theater, put the disc in, sit down with a remote, and be watching the movie 30 seconds later - like I do now. Anything else is a step backwards.... for me.
SC
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benareeno
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SC,
I know what you mean...and in your case, you'd best stick with the PS3. If you want to go HTPC successfully, you would need to make a solid investment of time at the beginning. You would have to fight through some stuff...etc. I just knuckled down and got it all working...but there are always issues with a PC, regardless of what the nerd herd might say.
The refresh rates are cool...and improve the motion in certain scenes...but with a crt, I don't think it's anywhere near crucial. 1080i 60 from the PS3 should be great 99% of the time.
If I was watching a digital projector, I would need a multiple of 24Hz...it would be a must for me!
Also, there are other methods of aquiring mkv's beside ripping them yourself.
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Mark_A_W
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| ecrabb wrote: |
I'd love to see somebody do a comprehensive "dirt cheapest way to play BD/HD, but not using crappy open-source software". |
A PC is not viable at all without the open-source software. This would be the software that works, as opposed to the ridiculously crappy commercial stuff.
If you want a UI and all that rubbish, just use a PS3 and a VP to provide the custom res and gamma.
You do need to buy Anydvd HD for the PC. All the other software is free.
The most difficult thing to do on the PC is get a decent remote working, can't argue there.
I really like having all my Blurays and HD-DVDs ripped to MKV, they are so easy to play, with none of the HDCP rubbish getting in the way 
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: Re: mkv's and minor tearing...fixed! |
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| benareeno wrote: | All I had to do was enable aero in Vista...tearing is gone.
It wasn't even that bad to begin with, but it was there....
I'll say it again...I'm loving these mkv's!
Now...my next step is to try and get that app from avs to do a custom gamma ramp as well as multi-point greyscale adjustment...and it's free!
This means that my $300 pc will do 47.952 Hz or 71.928...apply custom gamma (as opposed to the gamma boost transcoders), and possibly grey scale correction. Times have really changed...I really hate(d) HTPC's, but I am having trouble hating them now! |
I found with my dual monitor setup that I had to disable Aero for smooth playback.
Aero works great with one monitor, but gets very confused when you run two.
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perisoft
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The Big Thing for me would be finding a way to do a one-step rip-to-mkv. I'm not about to screw around with the command line demuxing, muxing, and digging out the right files - each time I want to rip a disc.
At the moment it seems easier to drop the biggest file on the disc into kmplayer and be done with it!
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nuttall_chris
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At the moment it seems easier to drop the biggest file on the disc into kmplayer and be done with it! |
This won't work for all disks. Any disk that uses "seamless branching" has the main movie split between multiple files, some movies use as many as 30 different files, some as few as 2.
Demuxing the movie with software like eac3to will bring the video files all back together into one file.
Chris.
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benareeno
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Chris, did you see that the latest eac3to has forced subs?
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nuttall_chris
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| benareeno wrote: | | Chris, did you see that the latest eac3to has forced subs? |
I saw that
Now I need to decide if I want to convert my entire collection (almost 200 movies) to mkv or keep them in ISO format.
Chris.
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benareeno
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I find that mkv's just don't studder....iso's do. But that may just be me.
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nuttall_chris
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My ISO's aren't studdering anymore. I managed to get Powerstrip to work well enough with vista to get proper 23.976 output. Playback is still with PowerDVD.
Chris.
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benareeno
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I guess it's now a matter of time vs storage expense? I know where you stand on that issue!
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nuttall_chris
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That's not really the issue as the MKV files will be approximatly the same size as the ISO images. Using MKV files opens up a lot of other options for playback vs using Powerdvd in my current solution. Also using MKV files would allow the use of reclock which currently isn't an option with ISO image playback with powerdvd.
Chris.
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Mark_A_W
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| nuttall_chris wrote: | That's not really the issue as the MKV files will be approximatly the same size as the ISO images. Using MKV files opens up a lot of other options for playback vs using Powerdvd in my current solution. Also using MKV files would allow the use of reclock which currently isn't an option with ISO image playback with powerdvd.
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The ISO's are usually double the size of the main title converted to MKV with FLAC audio.
Reclock works with Powerdvd, you just have to set it right.
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Mark_A_W
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| perisoft wrote: | The Big Thing for me would be finding a way to do a one-step rip-to-mkv. I'm not about to screw around with the command line demuxing, muxing, and digging out the right files - each time I want to rip a disc.
At the moment it seems easier to drop the biggest file on the disc into kmplayer and be done with it! |
There is a simple gui for eac3to now, it's on Doom9.
It's a simple 2 step process now. Eac3to, then mkvmerge.
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