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Tube beam collapse on shutdown 1209s

 
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NewbieDAN



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Tube beam collapse on shutdown 1209s

Guys,
how normal is it to have a diminishing circular beam collapse on shutdown of BarcoGraphics 1209s? It's not going to spot burn as it starts off very broad, and gets smaller, finishing about 5mm in diameter. I have a friend who has the same consecutive serial number 1209s from the same source, he is seeing the same issue. Our BG's run PT22-30 green tubes, and LPB's for blue and red.

Is this 'common' or do I need to be concerned.

Dan

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mike calcott



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject:

I think you should have kept the G70 as a backup
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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject:

Hello

Did this just start happening? One tube or all? You may have issues with the spot kill system.


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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject:

It has happened since I got it, and identical to the other 1209s we got at the same time. Pretty sure it's with all tubes, I'd have to check, but definately green.
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject:

mike calcott wrote:
I think you should have kept the G70 as a backup


It smokes the G70 Mike.....hope I don't need a backup, but I do have an XGLC in a crate in the shed.

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NewbieDAN



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject:

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
Hello

Did this just start happening? One tube or all? You may have issues with the spot kill system.


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It's got the soft edge modulation and was setup in a commercial blend. Unusual for both projectors to be exibiting the same 'problem'?

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject:

I've seen this with Panasonic tubes before. If it's a very dull 'fireworks' explosion in the middle of the tube without actually going to a defined dot, don't worry about it.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject:

Sounds like a contamination G1 short in the CRT if only on one tube. Not much to worry about though...
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SisterOfMercy



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject:

I can see this as well on my 1209s. The 808 was similar, if I remember correctly.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject:

All three tubes ?
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jkruger



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Mine did that on the blue... smacked it with my cane and the whippersnapper cleaned up his act right proper!
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NewbieDAN



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
Mine did that on the blue... smacked it with my cane and the whippersnapper cleaned up his act right proper!


You have a cane? Wink

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Tom.W



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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject:

A Sencore might be a bit better... Shocked
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jkruger



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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject:

Yes, I do have a cane. I do not have a Sencore yet, so I used the cane. Worked quite well with just a gentle tap on the gun area.
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jantje112



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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject:

Isn't it the 17 volt control circuit that needs to be adjusted?
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SisterOfMercy



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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject:

Tom.W wrote:
All three tubes ?


Yes, I think so. I'll have to check.

jantje112 wrote:
Isn't it the 17 volt control circuit that needs to be adjusted?


Recently I've checked my 17 Volt rail, and that was ok. So I doubt the TS needs to adjust the 17 Volt rail. Of course checking it is always ok.

But isn't this just normal behaviour of the set?

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