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Digital Tuner--QAM

 
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Jerry



Joined: 30 Jun 2007
Posts: 9


Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Digital Tuner--QAM

I would like to get a digital tuner /QAM for my CRT so I can receive QAM clear channels from my cable company. A suggestions?
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Clarence



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 3827
Location: Smith Mtn Lake, VA

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject:

Standalone or do you also want to capture the HD files to a PC?

I bought the DVICO:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/HDTV5usb.aspx
to see if it would give me 5.1 from our local PBS OTA station (for SoundStage, Austin City Limits, etc)... it comes across as only stereo on our cable box.

Anyways, it works great with QAM. Plus when you do a channel scan, it catches the pay-per-view channels from everyone in town on the same cable trunk Very Happy

But alas, the QAM feed for that PBS channel was still stereo (all of the other network QAM feeds are 5.1), so I listed it for sale...
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=159846#159846

Even if you don't have cable feed for QAM, it's amazing the free OTA HD you can get with old-school rabbit ears.
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Jerry



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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject:

I am wanting find a stand alone or external type tuner maybe a QAM with a DVR..........Help!
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Clarence



Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Location: Smith Mtn Lake, VA

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-RDR-GXD455-Single-Recorder-Built/dp/B000PGIYUM
Quote:
Sony RDR-GXD455 Single Deck DVD Recorder with Built In HD Tuner
Technical Details
Built-in ATSC/NTSC/QAM Tuner
HDMI Output with 720p/1080i Upscaling
One-touch Dubbing from DV/D* Camcorder via iLINK port.
Muti-Format DVD Compatible
MP3 and JPEG Playback on CD-R/-RW and DVD discs
This is silly: "Its included ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner makes it easier to record and burn high-definition TV into a standard 480 DVD format." Rolling Eyes
But they sell on ebay for $40-$120

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DTBH260F-HDTV-Terrestrial-Receiver/dp/B000JV6TQY

http://www.amazon.com/Grandtec-Tun-5000-Airvision-Receiver-Tuner/dp/B000HZJRSY

http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/video/hdhomerun.asp

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SIR-T451-Definition-Terrestrial-Tuner/dp/B00064L1AI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260021

http://www.firebird-systems.com/graphics/tuners/205dct.shtml

http://www.amazon.com/ATSC-QAM-NTSC-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B000V8XR1U
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AnalogRocks
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Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Clarence wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-RDR-GXD455-Single-Recorder-Built/dp/B000PGIYUM
Quote:
Sony RDR-GXD455 Single Deck DVD Recorder with Built In HD Tuner
Technical Details
Built-in ATSC/NTSC/QAM Tuner
HDMI Output with 720p/1080i Upscaling
One-touch Dubbing from DV/D* Camcorder via iLINK port.
Muti-Format DVD Compatible
MP3 and JPEG Playback on CD-R/-RW and DVD discs
This is silly: "Its included ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuner makes it easier to record and burn high-definition TV into a standard 480 DVD format." Rolling Eyes
But they sell on ebay for $40-$120

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DTBH260F-HDTV-Terrestrial-Receiver/dp/B000JV6TQY

http://www.amazon.com/Grandtec-Tun-5000-Airvision-Receiver-Tuner/dp/B000HZJRSY

http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/video/hdhomerun.asp

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SIR-T451-Definition-Terrestrial-Tuner/dp/B00064L1AI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260021

http://www.firebird-systems.com/graphics/tuners/205dct.shtml

http://www.amazon.com/ATSC-QAM-NTSC-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B000V8XR1U


I've got the Samsung 260 here. It has a green push on all outputs. I have to exchange it next week. Hope th new one doens't have the green push. Also the S-video and composite outputs stay active but there's no viewing the menu's or changine aspect ratios on the 480i outputs.

My other tuner is a PHD-205, NTSC/ATSC/QAM. Has VGA output too as well as DVI, component, Svideo and composite.
You can only select one output at a time with that one though.

http://www.amazon.com/ATSC-QAM-NTSC-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B000V8XR1U/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1229380624&sr=8-4

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Cousin.It



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Location: Hurst, TX

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject:

Quote:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SIR-T451-Definition-Terrestrial-Tuner/dp/B00064L1AI

I bought the Samsung SIR-T451 because various listings said it was QAM capable, but it was a disappointment for me. When hooked to an OTA antenna, the ATSC tuner for HD works pretty well, but when switched over to cable all I get is one channel and I know there are close to 80 channels I should get.

I think this has to do with knowing if the QAM tuner is a 64QAM and/or 256QAM as used in US cable systems. I suspect the Samsung is only 64QAM and not 64/256QAM like I think the newer tuners work.

I bought an LG LST-3501A tuner plus DVD player (with RGB output) and it can do either the OTA ATSC HD stuff or the cable QAM. It get the 80 channels with this unit, but it won't tune non-digital cable stations. Also, besides being sort of slow and clunky when changing channels, it also captures scrambled QAM channels and you have to manually remove them from your channel list.

I've found some QAM articles on Wikipedia, but nothing dumbed down for me so far:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64QAM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/256QAM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAM_tuner

I find ebay listings to largely not specify which QAM capability a TV or tuner has. I also find it hard to try all the different permutations in a search like these for those listings that do provide that detail:

256QAM 256-QAM QAM256 QAM-256 64/256QAM etc.....

I have a couple of Samsung SIR-TS360 units I use for their dual tuner arrangement with one input an air antenna for HD and cable on the other input. All its missing is that cable input won't also tune digital QAM channels.....

Mark
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject:

Wow you're lucky. ALL the QAM chanels here are encripted. I can't get a single QAM chanel.
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